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The devil's musicWhen a new neighbor moves in next doorto a metal club, things get ugly
Since the 1940s, the white concrete-block building at 6440 N. Orange Blossom Trail has housed a watering hole. Today, it’s the Junkyard Saloon, a gritty biker bar just north of Clarcona-Ocoee Road sandwiched between used-car lots, with Harleys in the parking area and their owners downing brews on the front deck.
A few years back, owner Nika Santonino expanded; she built a steel-framed structure on the back portion of the Junkyard property and opened the Dungeon, a metal music venue that caters to young goths and metalheads. The two bars may have clashing clienteles, but Santonino says there have never been any problems.
Between the chugging guitars and the rumble of the bikes, the Junkyard can get loud. For the first two years of the Dungeon’s existence, however, Santonino says she never had any complaints. That changed a couple of months ago, when a new neighbor moved into a house across Busby Avenue from the bars and began calling the cops. He called at least seven times in a six-week period, records and interviews indicate, and finally, he got the cops to do something about the noise.
On April 10, sheriff’s deputies arrived at Vincent G. Robinson’s house shortly after 11 p.m., after he’d lodged another complaint. “Mr. Vincent Robinson stated in a sworn statement that the loud noise (music) coming from [the Dungeon] was ‘affecting his peace and quite’ (sic),” wrote Sgt. David Legvold in a police report. “Mr. Vincent Robinson stated that this is an ongoing problem and he wanted the Orange County Sheriff’s Office to take enforcement action.”
The deputies arrested Santonino for breaching Robinson’s peace. She spent the next 13 hours in the Orange County jail.
You’d be forgiven for thinking it odd that the purveyor of a legally licensed music venue in the middle of nowhere could be arrested for making too much noise, or that a man who chose to move in across the street from a metal bar could convince the cops that the bar was such a disturbance as to warrant criminal charges.
“It’s like moving next to an airport and bitching about planes,” says Orange County code enforcement director Kurt Fasnacht.
The sheriff’s office maintains that none of that matters. “It doesn’t give [the bars] the right to overdo it,” says spokeswoman Cpl. Susan Soto.
But Santonino wasn’t overdoing it. Sheriff’s office reports show that Legvold arrested Santonino after determining that her bars’ volume exceeded the levels spelled out in Orange County’s noise ordinance. The problem is, Santonino didn’t violate that ordinance; and even if she did, that ordinance wouldn’t apply to her bar.
Peace and quiet
The county’s noise ordinance is spelled out in Section 15, Article V of the county code. It says that in residential areas and noise-sensitive zones – churches, hospitals, libraries, schools, etc. – noise levels cannot exceed an average of 55 decibels over a 15-minute period between 10 p.m. and 7 a.m.
The night of Santonino’s arrest, county environmental specialist Ricardo Moore took two decibel readings from the edge of Robinson’s property. The first checked in at 52 decibels. Legvold had him try again. This time the Junkyard measured 57.2 decibels, or slightly above county limits.
Except it most likely wasn’t. County code says that at sites with high levels of background noise – and a place packed with motorcycles along a busy road like North Orange Blossom Trail would seem to qualify – “the maximum allowable noise level will be three [decibels] above the allowable levels.” That means Santonino could arguably produce up to 58 decibels.
Of course, such a discussion is academic, as the noise ordinance doesn’t even apply to her bars. The county specifies that the 55-decibel limit only matters in “predominantly” residential areas. The area surrounding the Junkyard is not residential. There are no legal residences on Busby Avenue, the only street other than the Trail that abuts the bars.
That includes Robinson’s. Though no one’s sure why, his property has two zonings. The part closest to the Junkyard, where his house sits, is commercial property, according to county records. The back part of his lot is zoned residential, but it’s vacant.
Even if Santonino did violate the county’s noise law, the ordinance calls for a notice of violation, rather than handcuffs. As Soto points out, the breach-of-peace law under which Santonino was charged doesn’t have a specific noise threshold. Instead, the state law’s measure of criminality is whether or not the noise affects “the peace and quiet of persons.”
It’s an ambiguous standard that allowed Legvold to arrest Santonino on Robinson’s behalf, even though she was adhering to county-specified noise levels. Because Santonino filed a complaint against Legvold with the sheriff’s office’s professional standards division, the OCSO would not allow Orlando Weekly to interview the sergeant.
Legal residence
A key question in this case is whether Robinson is legally allowed to live where he’s living, and by proxy, whether his complaints have any legitimacy. If the house isn’t an actual residence, it doesn’t seem that they would.
According to Mitch Gordon, the county’s zoning manager, there are a handful of circumstances in which a person can live in a commercial building – which Robinson’s house, built in 1955, is. One would be if he owned and operated a business out of his house.
Robinson owns VJ Homes LLC, a company that owns a handful of properties in Orange County. That business is registered with the state to a house on Rex Hill Trail that Robinson and his wife purchased in 2005 for $321,100, an address at which Robinson and his wife claim their homestead exemption, according to property records. There is no indication in public records that the Robinsons run a business out of their Busby Avenue property, which they bought in September 2003 for just over $10,000 and deeded to VJ Homes LLC in December 2008. Robinson declined to comment for this story, citing pending litigation with Santonino.
Another circumstance in which it’s legal to live in a commercial area: If your building has “always been used as a residence, you don’t lose the ability to keep using it as a residence,” says Gordon. Fasnacht, the code enforcement manager, says he’s trying to figure out whether that property was ever zoned for residential use, and whether it qualifies for such a “grandfather clause” exemption.
Records indicate the house was zoned commercial property when Robinson purchased it in 2003.
Who’s the nuisance?
According to Santonino and Junkyard patrons and employees, Robinson harassed clubgoers for weeks. He called Dungeon patrons “white trash bitches” who listened to the “devil’s music,” they say. Santonino told police Robinson had cut the Junkyard’s phone lines and disabled its air conditioning system. On April 22, she got an injunction forbidding Robinson from setting foot on her property.
Santonino says Robinson walked onto her property April 24 and took photographs of the bands that were loading in for a show later that night, then called 911. When the police showed up, Santonino says they were going to arrest Robinson for violating the injunction, and her for breach of peace again. In the end, however, neither went to jail that night.
Soto says that sheriff’s deputies have tried to mediate the dispute, to no avail. “The decision they made [April 10] was to arrest her,” she says. “Could it have been prevented? I think it could have been prevented.”
All it would have taken, she continues, was for Santonino to lower the volume, to “show some effort.” Meanwhile, one man’s dislike for metal means the grudge match will likely continue. “If this guy keeps calling, we’re going to keep going out there,” she says.
The constant police presence, even though no law is apparently being broken, is driving customers away, Santonino says. “This is affecting my health,” she says. “This is affecting my business.”
jbillman@orlandoweekly.com
Comments on this story:
On 4/30/2009 9:28:21 AM, Anonymous said:
Robinson should set up some loudspeakers of his own and blast 80's mall rock & soft rock toward the bar...include "Let's Get Loud" by Jennifer Lopez also!
On 4/30/2009 10:14:34 AM, Anonymous said:
I'd really like to hear this retard comment on his idiotic decision to move in to this property. Fucking simpleton.
On 4/30/2009 10:22:15 AM, Anonymous said:
Great story, been to the Dungeon many times and have always found the staff, the patrons, and the bands to be great. Always a good time. Sounds like this guy should MOVE.....As for the OCSO, you need to send your people back to training. Sounds like a well deserved False Arrest suit coming your way.
On 4/30/2009 1:35:36 PM, Anonymous said:
Good. I'm sick of jackass mufflerless bikers too, why don't the cops start enforcing muffler laws too? Why did they ever stop? You hear those blasting idiot things everywhere? Well that is not only childish and moroninc and annoying, it's illegal.
On 4/30/2009 2:50:26 PM, Anonymous said:
Have You ever herd LOUD BIKE'S SAVES LIVES..if not your as dumb as the fool that lives across the street from a metal club...It is to bad people can not leave well enough alone...get a Life or move on down the road...
On 4/30/2009 11:42:51 PM, Anonymous said:
It is not all about the noise of the bikes it's about him not liking bikers or music or whites. I feel that a non citizen of this country should not be able to dictate what others should do. And I feel that a hard working business owner should be able to continue running her bar without being harrassed by one single prejudice man. He manipulates the police by continuosly calling them to irratate them to the point to make an arrest whether or not its warranted or not. Last i heard this was America and women are not beneath men in any shape or form and have the same rights as men. Maybe he should move back to haiti where women are third rate citizens and leave the American businesses alone, last put not least maybe he should pay his taxes and stop sponging off American tax payers.
On 5/1/2009 1:37:47 AM, Anonymous said:
First of all Dungeon is not only a metal venue, it has also on more than 1 occasion had christian rock bands, benefit concerts, and even yes a baby shower. lol. Next is this chick Soto really needs to make sure of the facts before she assumes there was no effort, she should have noted that not only was the volume turned down an extra WALL was built on the outside of the Dungeon facing Vincent's house (witch he isn't supposed to be in) if thats not effort I'm not sure what is. I hope that one man in an area he should not be in will not have the right or what ever is giving him his pull around orange county to shut a place down that not only has a good time but a place people depend on for what ever, money like the bartender or the bands looking for a place to get started. LONG LIVE MUSIC AND THE DUNGEON!!!
On 5/1/2009 2:02:46 AM, Anonymous said:
OK so first off doesnt every parent and mature aduld wish kids would stay off drugs and away from criminal activity? Well the Dungeon does provide that, they provide a place for younger generations to come out and express themselves in thier own way with out any issuses. Also just to throw it out there what owner of a buisness would provide a full thanksgiving meal for the ones in need, donate to the ones that have nothing or provide a venue for benefitial events such as illnesses,deaths, personal events(babyshowers,birthday parties, ect.) or just injuries or donates to the ones that cant do it themselves? That location has been cocidered a home to many individuals and the owners and workers have been cocidered family to many people for many years. I can also say it myself that this specific individual has had people in fear for thier safty and thier life on a few different occasions. I have been fallowed and questioned by Orange County Deputies for no reason at all, just walking to work. I have also been herassed by a man that is offten seen at Vincent's house, and all I was doing was walking down the road on my way to work not even being close to his house or the block that he lives on (Ilegaly). I just belive that the right person in this situation should be the one who is punished not the inocent. We all support Music and The Dungeon of Orlando. Rock On!
On 5/1/2009 6:22:35 AM, Anonymous said:
To the person who said that Robinson should get speakers of his own and blast 80"s music sounds pretty good to me I would dance in the streets to whatever he played, But that would be one quick way to get him arrested for disturbing the peace. Just remember one thing this man is taking away from our elders and is a scam artist when it comes to purchasing other peoples property or shall I say stealing it right out from under. All should look up on public records and see for yourself what he is up to. But if you feel it's right that a person can come into this country without paying taxes and moving money around then so be it. This man only wants to gain power over a community just like he has in the past who ever heard that a commercial property being sold for only 10,000.00 with a fancy quick claim deed only because the older couple that owned it was going into a nursing home to me that is a crime! He is snapping up property in the area on a monthly basis think about that one!
On 5/1/2009 7:07:09 AM, Anonymous said:
Wouldn't that be something if the complaint became his own problem meaning..he is in violation of the residential/commercial laws and it sounds like he is.
I am in favor to keep metal music staying alive.
There are harrassment laws and it is clear what I have read that Mr. Robinson needs a spanking for a couple of different things. (1)Living in a commercial building. (2)Abuisng the 911 system.(3)Harrasment to Nika and her patrons. (4)Violating a restraining order. (5) Trespassing.
(6)Damaging utility property (7)photographing without consent.
I think this is just cause for a civil suit. MR. ROBINSON GET A LIFE!!!!
On 5/1/2009 7:09:47 AM, Danie said:
Loud bikes are not as annoying as someone pulling up to you at traffic light and their booming music is so loud it is rattling their entire car, not to mention your own car, blasting your ear drums and inducing a headache. That is something we know will happen (even if though it's against the law) we expect it to happen, because people have zero regard for anyone else any more. But this dumb ass made the choice to move in right next to a WELL ESTABLISHED Biker Bar and a WELL ESTABLISHED Live Local Music Venue, it's unfair to call it a Metal Club because all kinds of bands have played there, from the heaviest of metal to funk, punk, radio rock, southern rock and not to mention nationally signed bands as well. There is more to The Dungeon than what meets the eye. I was up at The Dungeon for a great show last weekend and there is a very noticeable difference to the outside, including TWO barrier walls that were not there prior to Mr. Vincent Robinson's complaints. Which clearly proves that the intention of the venue operator is to coexist harmoniously. While I was there the cops were called again, when they arrived they quickly realized that zero laws were being broken... the bands were all delayed 30 minutes while things were sorted out, and the show went on. That is the only thing that Mr. Vincent Robinson will succeed in... minor delays. But the show will always go on, those of us who support the local music scene will not stop going to The Dungeon just because of one man who claims he is disturbed by the noise, we will put up with delays, we will put up with the police presence, we will put up with whatever else annoying neighbors and OCPD wanna dish out because that is what we do. So please everyone Support Your Local Music Scene!!!
On 5/1/2009 7:12:08 AM, Anonymous said:
By the way the comment made before this is from the band DragonHead. I hold no shame in my comment and do not want to be anonymous. MR ROBINSON the court system needs to give you a swift kick in the butt. You should be ashamed of your self. If your parents were still alive do you think they would be proud of you? Pamtanna from DragonHEad
On 5/1/2009 9:39:04 AM, Anonymous said:
So, the cops are siding with the neighbor and County code enforcement sides with the bar. If it's been a business since the 1940's I believe it should get precedence.
By the way, there are other bars on the block, too who have also received complaints.
So does the sheriff's office trump code enforcement? Can I dial 911 on OIA because of noisy airplanes? Not to mention that Robinson has owned this property for almost six years - and has now just started complaining? Has zoning dropped the ball?
‘affecting his peace and quite’ (sic)
Sgt. David Legvold - if you can't spell how can you make the decision to take somebody to jail? Did your gun get stolen out of your car, too?
The Junkyard has been there for ages - the dungeon has been in place for a couple of years now. Is Orange County intent on destroying local businesses?
I have way too many questions than answers from this ...
On 5/1/2009 11:39:57 AM, Anonymous said:
I worked at the Junkyard for years never had a prob with asshole neighbors or cops.If you don't like the music or noise move the hell outta Lockhart and go back to Haiti dumbass!!!!
On 5/1/2009 12:01:59 PM, Anonymous said:
So this man buys the only house on this street and then complains about the loud music, how stupid can someone be? How could he not know that the bar existed across the street when he bought his house for 10,000? The price alone should have been a red flag to him and that is why he was able to purchase it so cheap. It is a bar dummy, sell your house to the bar owners for the same price you purchased it at and find yourself another home, problem solved. I'm sure the owners won't mind living across from their business and then they could be the ones dealing with the loud noises coming from their own establishment. Seems simple to me, sell out and move dummy and stop wasting our taxpaying dollars!
On 5/1/2009 12:12:00 PM, Anonymous said:
I cant believe their letting this guy continue to hurt the bar.Espescially with the way the economy is how can you expect this place to survive.Bands are worried their shows will get postponed or even cancelled for that matter.The cops could show up at any minute and when they do the show stops untill its sorted out.These shows are usually well organized and are timed to end before last call.Just sayin he ought to be arrested for habitually calling the police over a matter he damn well knows no laws are being broken. He is the problem not the club.
sincerely
pj
lost in progress
On 5/1/2009 12:14:09 PM, Anonymous said:
p.s.
nika looks pissed in that picture no wonder people think this is a devil worshiping place.
On 5/1/2009 12:16:55 PM, Anonymous said:
Why did this man buy a house across the street from a bar in the first place? Now he wants to complain and call the cops and have the owner arrested, what a moron! He needs to move, and the bar needs to continue to do business as usual.
On 5/1/2009 12:21:11 PM, Anonymous said:
To the person saying Nika looks pissed, I would be pissed too if I were arrested under these circumstances! What the hell is wrong with you? Don't you realize that when her rights are violated all of our rights are violated too! Yeah I guess that is devil worshipping standing up for your rights! Get a life you loser! Think before you type and leave senseless messages obviously you have NO CLUE!
On 5/1/2009 12:37:45 PM, Anonymous said:
I'm SURE 'Robinson' KNEW that he was moving into a commercial area where there would be unusual sounds, and also KNEW there was a metal bar near his property. I'm wondering if this is the kind of guy that likes to cause other people trouble, and moved in KNOWING he would be calling the cops on a METAL bar.
‘Santonino’ has my support in this matter. People that move into an area before finding out all of the facts of said neighborhood is criminal in itself. IF 'Robinson' didn't know what he was getting into he must not be that smart.
On 5/1/2009 12:40:44 PM, Anonymous said:
I am an employee for the junkyard and I myself have been threated by robinson sicing his dogs on me as I walk to work being called white trash bitch.this asshole telling me he was going to blow up my place of employment I think it is really sad Nika has done alot for myself she is a Great boss not to mention a great friend she helps many people in the FAMILY right down to buying dog food for my dog since because the guy next door is effecting our business I lose money
On 5/1/2009 12:59:23 PM, Anonymous said:
also we are all family and you know what they say family sticks together i think this man has bitten off more thn he can chew.He needs to get a hobby other than dailing 911.And isnt there a law about miss using 911? NIKA JUST HANG IN THERE WE ALL LOVE YOU AND THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF MUSIC NEVER WAS A METAL HEAD BUT LOVE IT NOW!THIS GUY JUST HAS NOTHING BETTER TO DO BUT HARASS HARD HONEST WORKING PEOPLE I THINK IT IS ALL BULLSHIT.THIS ASSHOLE NEEDS TO BACK TO HAITI WHERE I GUESS THIS ACCEPTABLE.MAYBE LEARN ENGLISH OTHER THAN THE NOISE IS TO LOUD MAYBE HE SHOULD LEARN HOW TO FILE HIS TAXES.THAT WOULD OCCUPY HIS TIME.OR REALLY GET HIS PHD. LIKE HE CLAIMS HE ALREADY HAS AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT HE HAS HIS HOUSE ZONED HAS.WHAT A FUCKING LOSER.STOP STEALING ELDRLY PEOPLES HOMES VINCENT AND GET A REAL JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ARE YOU MAD WE DO THINGS HONESTLY IN AMERICA?WE LOVE ALL OUR PATRONS THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
On 5/1/2009 1:11:34 PM, Anonymous said:
NIKA IS NOT JUST A BAR OWNER SHE DOES ALOT FOR PEOPLE LIKE HELPING PAY THEIR MEDICAL BILLS FEEDING THE HOMELSS FOR THANKSGIVING,CHRISTMAS,OR IF THEY ARE JUST HUNGREY.SHE WILL EVEN HELP FEED THEIR ANIMALS.THIS GUY IS CRAZY.SHE HELPS WITH FUNERAL ARRAGMENTS FOR FAMILIES WHO CANT DO IT.SHE IS VERY MUCH LOVED NIKA KEEP IT UP BABY WE LOVE YOU ANDOUR DEVIL MUSIC AND YOUR BIKERS ARE THE BEST GREAT PEOPLE.GREAT TIME.KEEP IT UP IT WILL TAKE MORE THAN ONE ASSHOLE TO RUN US OUT WE WERE THERE FIRST AND WE WILL BE THERE LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On 5/1/2009 1:43:48 PM, Anonymous said:
Whoever wrote the "Devil Worshipping" comment: Why is it that certain people think that metal is devil worshipping music? For instance, Lamb of God...how are they devil worshipper. Their lyrics, with hundreds of other bands have nothing to do with worshipping Satan. Since registering is a pain in the ass, I can't have a user name.
Pisses me off. Apparently, my emails and username is already taken (Who did it) and, there is no "Forgot Password" link on this thing. So, with that I sign off...
Bleedingincshredder
A lot of bands, including my own, talk of politics, civil war, conspiracies in government officials in power, history, corruption of money, standing up for your own beliefs, pride, even getting laid and partying your a** off until you pass out on the floor(hair bands anyone?). How is that Satan worship asshole.
Also, my other views...I've played and visited the Dungeon and Junkyard a lot. Nika is a very good person who goes out of her way to help everyone else. The patrons (bikers, bartenders, other bands, and the regulars) are great people with who share lots of their life stories with you. No one causes anyone else drama over there. I saw that guy at our last show and, god forbid what I'd like to say, but can't because of certain laws against publicly humiliating a person.
Actually, he should be arrested and put away just for that. I'm sure a lot of people were there and, saw Nika get arrested that night. I'm sure she was pretty humiliated over it to and, it was in the public eye: the people.
I don't think it would be a bad idea for any private investigators to look up this guy's background and, see if there's anything that can be used against him such as: illegally purchasing property, to see if there's a code that he violated....tax evasion. How the hell did he get a tax exemption?
What an asshole. But you know that assholes always get their way. Idea? Maybe Nika, you should turn into one yourself. Italians like us are notorious for that.
If there are any private investigators, I'd definitely try to get them to do some research on this guy and, see about using the "dirt" on him in some way and, present it to your lawyer.
Also, if there is no sound ordinance applied to the J.Y. or Dungeon, what the hell is really going on? Dirty money? Perhaps he's buddy-buddy with someone of importance? I don't know but, Nika has always been there for everyone. She's helped people out when they needed somewhere to stay. She helped a lot of people find work, or gave them a little weekend gig, helping keep the Dungeon in order. Why should she be punished when she's done nothing but good for the community?
BLEEDING INC. SHREDDER!!!!
On 5/1/2009 1:45:25 PM, Anonymous said:
Sorry if the topics seem to be all over the place. My internet is going to slow for my typing skillz....hahahaha.
On 5/1/2009 3:30:13 PM, Anonymous said:
I myself have also known Nika for years and she has had soooo many charity events for local folks in need after cancer,after accidents etc. It is a real shame that one person on her road can cause such bullshit. Nika is a caring giving person,this guy just needs to go back to where he came or move back to one of the other homes he owns and leave us the hell alone. I know Nika very well and she will not give up EVER> Metal Rules
On 5/1/2009 4:33:16 PM, Anonymous said:
JUS A LITTLE BIT OF INFO HERE OCPD WAS JUST AT MY HOUSE FOR A DISPUTE DUE TO A NEIGHBOR. JUST HAPPEN TO BE LOOKING AT ALL THE COMMENTS AND OCPD COMMENTED THAT THEY DIDNT THINK SHE SHOULD OF BEEN ARRESTED THEY HAVE RESPONDED TO THE COMPLAINTS AT THE JUNKYARD AND HAD NEVER HEARD OF THE PLACE EITHER PLACE. BEFORE THIS ASSHOLE VINCENT MOVED IN.
On 5/1/2009 5:41:29 PM, Anonymous said:
I bet if the guy could look past the whole SATAN WORSHIPING crap and go over to The Dungeon for a beer, he would realize that it is just like the old show Cheers, where everyone knows your name! It is a great place to play and a great place to enjoy different types of music. Metal/Punk/Alternative..etc! Good Luck Nika!
On 5/2/2009 5:24:40 PM, Anonymous said:
i think the guy has no business on the propery in which he purchased uness he is using it for buissness. also santanino should sue the county for false imprisonment. and robinson should go to jail
On 5/3/2009 7:39:41 AM, Anonymous said:
I want to thank the Orlando Weekly for all the help they have given me to expose the real truth on this matter. I also want to thank all the people who continue to support the music no matter where it is.
We the people have the choice to look the way we want to listen to what we want to hear drive what we want to drive. Continue on expressing yourself because in the end the truth will prevail!
False arrest oh yes will I seek justice yes. Will I allow one man who dislikes everyone everything as well as this country who steals from others push me down HELL NO!!!! If we all hide our heads in the sand nothing will get done, The last I heard this was the land of Freedom. Sorry that I looked so pissed but damn 13 hours in the famous orange county jail without food or water or watching women eating out of trash cans from the night before you would look a bit pissed yourself, but it's all good self expression don't ever loose it. You should see me in the morning lol... Yes I do think Robinson should be placed in jail for violation of his injunction and for false statements to the police and for putting me into jail for no freaking reason he is a liar and I feel justice will be served in time. Nika
On 5/3/2009 8:22:10 AM, Anonymous said:
im pretty sure the devilworshipping comment was meant to be a joke lighten up people
On 5/3/2009 4:51:28 PM, Anonymous said:
When a person moved into an area that's zoned for commercial use, it is not the venue's responsibility to make him happy. It just so happen's the venue is metal music, in a clean bar, catering to a group of people who are being harassed and discriminated against. No law is being broken; the noise level has been proven to be within the law, so why is an innocent woman and her workers constantly being reported? I can honestly say I hope Robinson chokes on his own misdeeds.
On 5/3/2009 5:28:00 PM, Anonymous said:
Vincent is still on warpath. Once more on the Bartenders Birthday party(a killer show) The cops where out again and we were forced once more to pack up early and did not get to finish the show. This is not fair to anyone. The owner,The Bartenders,or the bands,sound guy,photographer,ect. why is it that the law continues to let him get away with this?I agree with the other persons opinion above, there has to be dirty money involved somewhere or maybe just some sweet undercover lovins,who knows? But I can say one thing I do know for sure and that is that Vincent should get the hell outta there. I dont care where just away from that area.That whole road starts with one bar and ends with another, so where is the confusion on his part?
~MC~
On 5/5/2009 10:31:43 PM, Anonymous said:
Nika only does good for the community and should'nt have been treated the way she was.
On 5/5/2009 10:57:09 PM, Anonymous said:
Um, if you move into a house that is across the street from two bars you should expect a lot of noise! What a freaking idiot! It is absolutely disgusting that a business owner can be arrested for having good business! Thanks to the Orlando Weekly for giving us the real story!
On 5/5/2009 11:36:49 PM, Anonymous said:
We are all adults. At some point we must bear responsibility for our actions!! Before we purchase a home we do ALL of the research which includes, the neighborhood and neighbors, the school system, local grocery, public transportation etc...The fact that this simpleton just moves right in to a home across from a bar and is surprised by the noise only proves the this man clearly did not do his homework!!! It's ridiculous for the bar owner to be areested for that!!
On 5/9/2009 8:40:23 AM, Anonymous said:
Splatterbox* Comments:"WHAT WE HAVE HERE...IS A FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE."...TWO TEARS IN A BUCKET AND FUCK IT!PARTY ON MY BEAUTIFUL FRIENDS...PARTY ON..OH YEAH MR.ROBINSON...MOSHFEST!!!EAT THAT BITCH.
On 5/9/2009 8:44:23 AM, Anonymous said:
You don't move in next to a metal club and bitch about the noise. Are you moronic of what. I've been to the Dungeon many many times and everyone associated with the Dungeon is awesome. Dipshit has to go that is all.
On 5/9/2009 8:59:53 AM, Anonymous said:
nika is a wonderful person, has always helped those in need and is a real asset to the community ...unfortunately more often than not, certain hypocritical police will always side against bikers and heavy music...it gives them a reason to justify their paycheck...the evidence concludes that a false arrest was made...anyone ever hear of "the salem witch trials" ...
On 5/9/2009 4:11:30 PM, Whatif? said:
What if the information printed in this article and in other media or blogs by the BAR OPERATOR, her employees, friends and supporters of hers about this neighbor are FALSE and can be proven FALSE? Why is there only one side written by this journalist? Are there others to be told, especially the story of the “MORON NEIGHBOR”? It is so easy to condemn the “MORON NEIGHBOR” just because he keeps silent. The Code Enforcement Officer (a public servant) is the real moron because he has shown bias, by being on the side of the Bar Operator, instead of being impartial. If everything written about the neighbor is correct, then this “MORON NEIGHBOR” must be one “SMART MORON” (OXYMORON?)and he may have the last laugh.
On 5/10/2009 1:06:53 PM, Anonymous said:
My band was supposed to headline the night that Nika got arrested. We stood right there and watched it all go down. It was such a shame. We didn't get to play and everyone that came out to see us had to leave and Nika spent the next 13 hours in jail. Hopefully all the metal heads in Orlando can unite with us and overcome!!! ADD US!!! http://www.myspace.com/xMachineGunFunk
On 5/11/2009 3:42:17 AM, Anonymous said:
Comment from "whatif" (above) sounds like the moron neighbor himself... Exactly how is the code enforcement officer being biased by showing the laws and public records (easily accessed by anyone) state that the business owner is in the right? You are wasting good oxygen that others could be using to fuel working brains. Do us all a favor and stop breathing.
On 5/12/2009 9:55:55 PM, Anonymous said:
Following up on my previous blog re the Moran Neighbor, let’s take a look at these points. I passed by the Dungeon on last Friday at about 10:35 p.m. and this club was dead, just musicians playing to other musicians and workers. I left and returned at 12:15 a.m. Still no crowd, just workers and musicians. I returned on Saturday, May 9 at 9:25 p.m. Not even music was playing. Returned at 11 p.m, there was music but no audience. I just left for a Downtown club instead. The place was STILL DEAD. Whatever is being said about this neighbor just doesn’t add up. There may be expressed support from the club employees, patrons and out-of-towners, but if others really want to see exactly what is happening, they need to visit the Dungeon themselves. Another thing, why is it being said that the neighbor is a racist, when the Dungeon, its employees and bloggers seem to be the ones who keep throwing racial remarks, especially about his country Haiti? The constant reference to his properties and how the Dungeon would like to take his property to build a bigger Dungeon - Is this the plan - to run the man off his property and try to somehow take it over? Do I sense some grudge and jealousy for what the man owns? There seems to be more to this than is actually being said. I think we all as bloggers need to re-examine ourselves and the statements being made. Let’s face facts: The police had a point when they said in the Orlando Weekly, all that was needed was to turn down the volume to “show some effort.” Might is not always right!
On 5/14/2009 9:55:06 AM, Whatif? said:
The following questions are related to the consistent blogging by the Dungeon operator on her website and the obvious incorrect reported story by The Orlando Weekly writer. These questons are as a result of comments made by the Dungeon operator.
How do you know this guy has warrant out for his arrest in New York and Florida? How do you know he is illegal? Why don’t you report him and get him arrested? An injunction asks if the person lives more than 500 ft. from you. You must have said “Yes” in order to get this restriction on him. That means you lied. You said you want him to sell his home and move elsewhere. What about his right to live where ever he chooses, just like you want to do your business where you choose, especially since Orange County records show that you are not the owner of the property where you have your business. You are a RENTER, unlike the neighbor who owns his home. That is JEALOUSY. “Double jeopardy” can only be after a trial. You need a new advisor or lawyer. By your writing, you have been dependent on Code Enforcement to do your dirty work, which suggests that you are calling them; yet you said you don’t do that garbage. That is again a LIE and shows how evil you can be. You and others take pictures of him, even made a video of him and his home and post it on the Web, yet you BITCH and COMPLAIN about him taking pictures of you and your business. That is hypocritical. Only a person who doesn’t have the truth on their side runs to the media and tries so hard to persuade others that they are in the right. You seem to be BITTER because you were locked up for noise violation, then you started to attack your neighbor. You made a video of him, protest against him as shown in your video, accuse him of having warrants, being illegal, calling code enforcement on him, got the news media to publish what are evidently LIES on him, said you want him to sell his home and move. You are obviously making up all of these accusations and getting your employees and so-called friends to side with you. I don’t think I will ever support your business again. You are obviously filled with hate, anger, jealousy and vengeance. It seems to be eating you up inside. Living with LIES and continuing to LIE will ultimately destroy you and others around you.
On 5/20/2009 1:39:55 PM, Anonymous said:
fuck that piece of shit, he should be put on a cross.
On 5/21/2009 12:06:31 AM, Whatif? said:
The verdict is in and the Barmaid LOST! On Monday 5/18/09 all the lies told by the Barmaid in her Injunction against her neighbor were dismissed. Conclusion is, all her allegations were lies and manufactured by her in retaliation to her being arrested for breach of the peace. When faced with the truth on her own website she removed all opposing views and her responses to them. Hiding the truth does not make you right! When others support someone knowing only one side of a story and care not to know the rest of the story, always remember, one would now be allowing ones-self to be let into the Evil Dungeon of Doom and possible legal actions. Freedom of speech is for all, not just for those blogging on the Internet or having a hungry newspaperman drooling over and printing a story for sensationalism rather than researching obvious facts. This barmaid, her employees, supporters, orphan Dungeon Family members and newspaperman did a great injustice to this neighbor and if they really believe in fair play or just common decency they should apologize to this man using the same medium they used to judge him wrongfully. Jealousy, covetousness, envy and revenge will only eat at you and reduce your ability to achieve your maximum potential. Celebrate in the success of others and you will find it easier to succeed. Show your strength with a kind word by apologizing to the neighbor and help the barmaid to let go of her anger. This is America! Stop fighting the other guy for his piece of the pie and be bold enough to go earn your share!
On 5/30/2009 5:45:18 PM, Anonymous said:
If anyone seams to be angry It's you your taking this way out of control you sit behind a computer only to hurt others by your vicious remarks you have no clue on what is going on. If anyone has been calling up on people it has been the Robinson's I only had to comply with all of the laws but I guess he does not have to. The bottom line is this If he would like to live in a commercial zone fine then shut your mouth and deal with all the business that is in the area don't waste the time of the police and complain to every official out there. We all have to defend ourselves against others who insist upon making false remarks or insist upon trying to close bars down. It appears to me that you are into the same garbage that the Robinson's are into maybe you have a secret habit of wanting to be a bar owner who knows but your slang remarks towards my bar and you placing all your ads about staying away from my bar are just stupid. And another thing I'm not a barmaid I'm the owner of the Dungeon so when you try to put the story out make sure you have the correct information and like I told you in the past come to the bar i will buy you a beer and show you all the legal licenses I have nothing to hide. I have asked you nice to stop this nonsense but you refuse to do so. I have decieded to remove a lot of the comments because I want this garbage to stop but you just keep on adding fuel to the fire for some weird reason,I can only feel truly sorry for you and your lack of being a stand up person show yourself do not hide behind a computer and trash others for your own self gain. practice what you say listen to your own sentence you say"rather than researching obvious facts" I think you have not done your research.... I should make copies of letters from several family members that they have sent me in regards to this man Mr.Robinson but I have made the choice not to be a low class person I know the truth and in time things will all come out but for now give it a rest already, All people concerned do not want to continue on hearing the angry words you have to say.Since you insist on having such strong feelings on subjects then why don't you be an advocate for laws that protect children against abuse put your mind to good use to the community instead of bashing a stupid conversation about sound in a commercial property.Of course you won't say the case was dropped you will only insist on your way or no way how sad is that.
On 5/31/2009 10:50:59 PM, Whatif? said:
I just have to say it again, but you lost AGAIN!! Someone pretending that she is a family member of the neighbor tricked you! I had to locate the real family member so she knew what was happening. You should be ashamed of yourself, pouring out your soul of LIES to a total stranger and get caught. How pathetic! I know the family and they are very decent people, so go ahead with your lawsuit. Only a very hungry and foolish lawyer would take up your case. I hope he is smart enough to charge you upfront. I am sure that the neighbor was just going to let things rest, but now, after seeing all the lies you have told and written about him and the things you have done to him, and you are continuing on your mission of vengeance and hate by trying to contact his family for his personal information, I hope he thinks otherwise and sue the crap out of you. I also got in touch with the “IMPOSTER NIECE” you mentioned and received a copy of both emails from you and her. You give Metal-Heads a bad name and the idiots who are defending you only show how stupid and backward they are. Neither you nor them seem capable of even putting two grammatically correct sentences together in the blogs. I also know you and your people placed a HANGMAN NOOSE at this guy’s fence during one of your shows. I thought those racial hate crime days were over, but I guess not. I have been to your bar twice in the past and also a few times to your Dungeon before you started to shut it down with your own ignorance and lies, and from what I have experienced it takes two or three beers before any of your bars can be appreciated. Leave the neighbor alone and stop making noise in front of his legal residence. You don’t care about anyone, all you care about is your own selfish gains and money. The sooner your “FRIENDS” find out who you really are the better off they will be. Metal-Heads out there, most of us are smarter that this barmaid is trying to make us out to be. Don’t get caught up in her web. She is a FRAUD!!
On 6/1/2009 1:03:54 AM, Anonymous said:
I hope everyone out there understands that this man is very mental he will not stop writing his lies all over the internet. I will be sending all his hateful letters to the police department hopefully they will take this man to the nearest mental hospital. How scarry is this? Not only do we have to deal with the neighbor we have to deal with a person who enjoys stalking and cyberbulling. It appears to me your a relative or good friend who will back up all lies and be apart of destroying others. I can only hope that you have a good lawyer because what you are doing is against all laws! And I'm not the barmaid I'm the owner, 2 or 3 beers to be appreciated huh, Well It would take me a whole bottle to appreciate a so called human like you, your hatred has taken over your body. Go hang out at another bar that can put up with your evil mind.Leave me alone and stop with all this nonsense already your worse than Mr.Robinson atleast he shows his face you on the other hand hide behind a computer stalking every move and If you do not like certain places or people you try to make lives miserable.Maybe the community you live at should realize what type of a person you really are, I hope you sleep at night knowing how shady you really are.....
On 6/3/2009 5:51:51 PM, Whatif? said:
It took you a while for you to realize that this forum is open for communication. Even though you keep advertising the Orlando Weekly, you don’t seem to read it. Maybe you have difficulty reading also. Before I go any further, let’s clarify something that seems to be of great importance to you. The first time I entered your bar you served me. I gave you a tip and you took it. That, to my friends and me, makes you a barmaid. There is nothing wrong with that profession so you don’t need to make a big deal out of the word. Some barmaids earn a lot more than their patrons. It is all so easy to say I am mental or I just spill hate, but whatever I write can be independently proven and established. The same can’t be said about you. What you have not answered yet are the questions posed in the last couple of weeks. The neighbor bought his property before you existed on that corner. You and Orlando Weekly’s Jeffrey Billman have no idea how much he paid for it. The Dungeon came about a year after the landscaping company moved out. The facts are in my previous blogs. The neighbor tried talking to you and your “FRIEND” at different times but you ignored him and continued with your business. The rights of this homeowner means nothing to you, he is just an obstacle you want to be rid of. You don’t care about the bands and those who come to your Dungeon and Junkyard. I know of some bands that are still waiting for payments from you. You are a charlatan in the worst form. You use your employees and friends to send threatening comments and incite violence against your neighbor on your blogs and Orlando Weekly’s blogs and to misrepresent the truth in the community and in court. You don’t want the truth, that’s why you delete so much positive comments and genuine questions from your blogs without answering them. If you don’t like what is being said you just delete it. It’s refreshing to know that this newspaper is lending a forum to the other side of the story. You are disappointed that your many plots, posturing, evil deeds and lies have not sent your neighbor to prison and drive him from his home. You are trying to spread hate and rage among your employees, the bands and patrons in order to intimidate the neighbor. Most of these people are not idiots. Many of them are professionals and independent thinkers. They can see through your smoke, lies and evil deeds, even after three or more beers!! Now the neighbor has started fighting back you are panicking. Stop posturing and go apologize to the good neighbor, he may just forgive you and pray for your empty soul. It would give you a warm feeling inside, make you look younger and could even help you get off your medications.
On 6/10/2009 5:00:23 AM, Anonymous said:
First of all what medication are you talking about? I did not know you are some magical person who jumps into other peoples lives, when you say you speak the truth and you know so much about all of us then you should know that I do not drink nor do I take any meds. I deleted all of your messages because the police told me to after they have copies of all your remarks and so on. Yes proud to be a bartender and the owner so big deal say what you like about that. The fact is that Vincent purchased the property in late 2003 the junkyard has been opened for almost 7 years the Dungeon on 6-9 has been opened for 2 years and your point to this is what? Vincent only moved into his property late part of march this year because he could not rent it out to others why I do not know or care. But just to fill your mind on the angel of a friend you think you have here is the latest yesterday he sat in front of his house blowing a loud whistle for hours and hours nobody has bothered him so why is that? Tonight at 6:30 his wife came running out screaming at the one of the employees also getting physical are we all suppose to just stand around and allow others to push or name call or blow a whistle? I will not subject myself to cruel and vicious acts. I think it is disgusting that adults would scream and push younger people around, nobody can understand what makes him tick. Why is that you are always running with your mouth but hide behind your computer? Vincent has never tried to talk to me so get your story straight already! If you want to continue on running your mouth without understanding what the heck is going on, then why don't you come back to the bar have a seat sit back and watch the show that Mr. and Mrs Robinson put on then you can make your final judgement call. There are no bands who are waiting for payments I always pay my bands but when people like you or the Robinsons have us shut down then all of us recieve no payments. Be a real person and say who you are if not continue on sinking in your own pile of garbage....I told you once and I will tell you now LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!! One last thing your friend keeps on posting his signs on his fence and the words are coming from you we all can tell. I think you use all the web sites just to show others that you are some sort of english grammer teacher always judging always making fun of others you are one sick person.....What do you consume on a daily basis? Must be the same drug the neighbor is on!!!! Get a life and do something important in life instead of wasting time on such trash.Try looking up on public records on your neighbor the truth is on the papers from one state to another..... yours truly the barmaid!
On 6/14/2009 10:46:24 AM, Anonymous said:
I realize this is quite a bit late but I just found this article online. No, I don't live in Orlando. I don't even live in FL but I do know some of the great people who work/frequent The Dungeon. I'd like to applaud Nika. Not only does she manage to keep herself and her bars above water in this time of economic hardship, she manages to employ a staff as well. She may not be able to pay a huge wage but she's helping Orlando's economy AND music scene.
From what I can tell, this neighbor may have owned the property longer than the Dungeon has been operating BUT it is in a commercial district. He moved into the property and is living there illegally, since zoning laws state you can live in a commercial area if 1. you legally operate a business from the address and live there as well (not the case here, as proven in the above article) or 2. the property was zoned residential previously before the area was rezoned. This would be called "grandfathering" BUT, in most ordinances this becomes null/void when the property changes hands (this would also not apply in this case).
So, this neighbor is in violation of the zoning ordinances. Yet, he chooses to complain about the Dungeon? Not the brightest light bulb in the bunch, eh? If he has a $200,000.00 plus home, why is he living in his $10k property, complaining about White Trash Bitches? He must have some friends in higher up places to think he could even ATTEMPT something like that. Too weird.
As far as Nika "losing"....Huh? I'm quoting the below from the Orlando Weekly's other article. Please read and decide for yourself if Nika really "lost".
"When we last left the Junkyard Saloon and the Dungeon, the oddly amalgamated metal/biker bar on North Orange Blossom Trail, owner Nika Santonino was staring down charges of disrupting her neighbor’s peace after said neighbor, Vincent Robinson, deluged the cops with phone calls complaining about the noise emanating from the music venue [see “The devil’s music,” April 30]. Meanwhile, Robinson was facing an injunction after Santonino accused him of threatening her employees and patrons, and Orange County code enforcement and zoning officials were trying to figure out if Robinson was living on his property – his house is listed in county records as “commercial” – legally.
Good news! Santonino is off the hook. Earlier this month, the state attorney’s office dropped the charges against her – and really, they should have. According to Orange County Sheriff’s Office records, her bar wasn’t too loud, officially speaking. But that didn’t stop the cops from arresting her April 10 for breaching the peace.
Not all the chips fell her way. On May 18, a judge dismissed her injunction against Robinson; Santonino says she’s appealing. The next day, the Florida Division of Alcoholic Beverages and Tobacco, which regulates bars, rejected Robinson’s effort to have Santonino shut down. Can’t stop the rawk."
http://www.orlandoweekly.com/columns/story.asp?id=13182
On 6/15/2009 10:50:29 PM, Anonymous said:
I am an observer who has been reading all the articles and blogs both in the Orlando Weekly and also on the Dungeon website. I live in Orlando. After seeing the last article, I have decided that it’s time I enter this picture and give my views based on everything that I have read and observed. I, too, would like to “applaud” you for trying your best to disguise yourself in your article of 6/14, but remember a leopard cannot change its spots. There were several things that gave you away: Your THEME throughout the Orlando Weekly and your blogs is that the neighbor is living on a “commercial property illegally”. Even though you said you don’t live in Orlando or Florida for that matter, you give the impression that you know everything about the zoning laws and ordinances in relation to the gentleman’s property. It was obviously your great desire to get the other article in the Orlando Weekly linked to this one since it was not captivating any reader’s interest, so you made sure to quote every word from it. You seem very jealous that the gentleman chooses to live in his “$10K property” instead of one of his “$200,000 plus homes”. You still think he has no legal right to live wherever he chooses. Isn’t that his constitutional right? Do you know that Warren Buffet is the richest man in America, yet he chooses to live in a small 3 bedroom 2 bath home? Your words “weird” and “huh” are consistent terms of yours throughout your blogs. You stated: “Not only does she manage to keep herself and her bars above water in this time of economic hardship, she manages to employ a staff as well. She may not be able to pay a huge wage but she's helping Orlando's economy AND music scene.” Only YOU would write that! That’s just so PERSONAL and CONSISTENT in your blogs. You are just trying to draw sympathy from readers. Your suggestion for readers to “read and decide for yourself if Nika really ‘lost’ “ shows your anger because of the fact that you “lost” the injunction that you took out against your neighbor, I understand falsely and maliciously. I note the Orlando Weekly only writes what you tell them instead of going out and researching facts. Looking at the Orlando Weekly, it’s obvious that they only support bars, strip joints, sex shops and prostitutes, and we both know which category you are in. This paper did not state the reason why you “lost” the injunction. Your injunction was dismissed because you lied in your statements in retaliation against your neighbor for you now becoming a jail bird because you violated the Noise Ordinance. You also want to drive him off his property. If readers are to believe everything this journalist writes, they would think that you actually constructed the buildings that house your bars even though they both were built in 1935, long before you were born, and that you are a tenant and not the owner. Everything else you wrote in your latest blog is a regurgitation of whatever Orlando Weekly wrote and which all came from you in the first place. And remember, if you put lipstick on a pig, it is still a pig. And, in your case, you would need a whole lot of lipstick to disguise yourself!
On 6/16/2009 6:46:42 AM, Anonymous said:
Don't challenge the nerd he will tear you apart he thinks he is so perfect. It's his game and he does not play well with others!
On 6/17/2009 12:15:58 AM, Anonymous said:
I live in Lockhart for 19 years and 8 months, so I know what is happening here. This Junkyard and Dungeon need to find a different home. I am tired of hearing and seeing the crap at this place. The last three weeks have been very quiet and this is because the police and the gentleman owning the property next door have been doing what is necessary to fix the problems. I and my neighbors have listen to this noise crap for two years now and just because of fears that these metal punks would hurt us we said nothing. I want more change. The drugs selling at the bar should stop also. Why Nika allow Smiley Bob to sell drugs from the bar is amazing. Maybe she is getting a cut. He even have his own special beer mug at the bar. I will be the one to contact the police and bring them there to stop this shit. You other pill pushers and users going to the Junkyard will be next. You know who you are. Those metal punks smoking crack and weed in the parking lot should also be arrested. I am tired of this darn problem. Leave the man alone, he is a nice man and that is his home. Go find some other place to put your bar, drugs and noise crap. Lockhart was a good place to live before this bar and metal crap came.
On 6/17/2009 8:41:16 AM, Anonymous said:
You are right Bub, This Dungon is bad for Lockhart we already have enough problems to now get more drugs in here. And 2, 3 and 4 in the morning the bikes reving the engines waking us up when they pass my house. This witch needs to go.
On 6/17/2009 3:39:06 PM, Lamar said:
Its funny how the folks above choose to live in a dumpy part of town, then complain when its dumpiness bothers them. I think they are playing it too cavalier with somebody else's ability to make a living, conveniently forgetting that it was THEY who chose to live in Lockhart. As they say, the three keys to real estate are location, location, location. People have been trying to get the government to improve their location for centuries. Move in next to a dump, then petition the government to move the dump. It's slick, but the city has too many metrosexuals with property to please. The 'necks out in Lockhart are out of luck.
On 6/17/2009 7:19:37 PM, Anonymous said:
Thanks Lamar for seeing our neighborhood as a dump. Some folks like myself have been living around here for forty years or more. You probably have shares in the invading dump Junkyard and Dungeon bars and the drug trafficking dump scavengers. I bet you still come to our dump neighborhood for your drinks and relaxation. Maybe you are just dumping on yourself. Send your address so we can send you a shovel, some towels, bleach and soap. I am sure you can find water in that dump bar you are drinking from.
On 6/17/2009 11:47:25 PM, Anonymous said:
When my husband and I moved to Lockhart 12 years ago it was a quiet and peaceful place, almost like country, we never had “dumps” here, just decent homeowner. It is a proud thing to own your home and I can tell that you, Lamar, are far from that. Owning means you have no mortgage. I know what you are trying to say and if you were an independent homeowner you would have the guts to say it. Some of us are rednecks as you implied but we all get along. You on the other hand are still trying to figure out who you are. This is why the “dump” is so attractive to you. This is why you are a wonderer and don’t understand simple folks. It doesn’t matter if you live in an A-1, C-1 or R-1, what matters is that you are comfortable. You stay with your metrosexual friends and let them tell you how your garden should look, how green your grass should be and what color to paint your house, you will never enjoy the freedom of living in your home even though you see our community as a “dump”. The family is living the life they choose and the bar is disturbing them. They own their home, she rents her buildings just three years now, not seven as she likes to claim. Address that. She is lying and is encouraging her employees to lie. That is as plain as day and what’s more they are telling the community this. She is a fraud and a pretender, fooling herself that we need her and our world would fall apart without her. Her making a living means we should suffer under her noisy bands, filling the area with hundreds of people who don’t give a damn if we exist or not. She has young teens drinking beers in her parking lot and in the streets, some of them smoking weed. At the end of the night they go to a quiet home where people like you can’t turn your music up, or your next-door neighbor would call the police on you. We are no different. The bar owner is a bad influence and she needs to take her business elsewhere. Her landlord can rent his place to a business that will not devalue our community. We need better business in our community, not a drug pushing business. With this bar we all loose.
On 6/18/2009 10:00:57 AM, Lamar said:
Take out the petty insults ("dumpiness", "rednecks"), and you still have the same problem. You chose to buy in that part of town, and now you want the government to drive out local businesses so that your property increases in comfort and value. Biker bars and metal clubs don't ruin neighborhoods. They take advantage of low real estate prices in neighborhoods that have already lost value. For what its worth, I have higher regard for an owner in Lockhart than for a renter in Thornton Park. As for the loud music, I have two words for you: Green Glue.
On 6/18/2009 10:30:09 AM, Anonymous said:
Let us all as residents forget the Robinsons for a moment because they are not the only residents living next door to this Junkyard Saloon Bar and the Dungeon Noisy Club. They are the ones living closest to these two bars and heavy metal club, but we also live in close proximity to them and have also been suffering through all the various noises coming from these two businesses for the last three-and-a-half years. The bar on OBT was OK with us throughout the years Brenda’s Watering Hole was there and previous business owners ran that place, but ever since it changed hands at the end of 2005 when Brenda left and the Junkyard took over, things have changed drastically. It got far worse when the heavy metal club at the Dungeon began in 2007. We have been complaining among ourselves as residents, especially about the heavy metal noise which we have to endure night in and night out every week when we should be resting peacefully in our beds or watching TV or listening to our own music that we choose to listen to, but we just did not complain to the County or the Sheriff since we did not think they could or would do anything about the situation. Now that the Robinsons and the Sheriffs Office have been doing something about it, we are all sleeping better at nights and enjoy listening to our own music, watching TV in peace when the Dungeon is not opened for shows, and opening our doors and windows to enjoy the fresh air because the noise has been reduced with less bands coming around. With most of the big bands stopped coming to the Dungeon, it’s a lot more peaceful and quiet. We now see less young people getting drunk where many of them had to be carried to their vehicles. There is also now less traffic on our streets and less noise from these formerly large crowds. We are happy to know that someone has stepped up to the plate and is doing something about all this crap and we will now rally behind the Robinsons and help to restore peace and quiet in our community.
No one is stopping or trying to stop this bar and club operator from earning a living, employing others and contributing to the economy. She can continue doing all these as long as she takes her noisy club into a jungle somewhere or in a commercial area where her building is fully enclosed and soundproofed and where residents like ourselves will not have to hear it and lose our sleep at nights and suffer the way we Lockhart residents have suffered in the last three-and-a-half years since this woman brings all these metal heads, rock heads and drug pushers into our neighborhood and destroys every resident around here peace and quiet. OR, since her large clientele desperately needs another venue for their kind of music, maybe THE HAVEN should WISE UP and open a second venue somewhere and cater to these other metal heads. After all, business is business and is good for the economy, regardless of who provides the service. HAIL TO THE ROBINSONS!!
On 6/18/2009 10:56:57 AM, Lamar said:
You want all the benefits of a quiet, tree-lined subdivision with a strict HOA, but you only paid Lockhart prices. I would recommend taking the difference between what you paid and what you would pay in a quiet neighborhood and using that to either soundproof your home (the Green Glue comment) or get together with your neighbors and purchase the property at 6440 N. OBT. Next thing you know, Conway residents will try to shut the airport down.
On 6/18/2009 1:02:57 PM, Anonymous said:
This is something Lockhart has had to struggle with for years and this club lit the fuse to the powder keg. One of my co-workers who lives in lockhart feels the same way about the strip club across the street from the trailer park. He used to say " everyone associates lockhart with the strip club". This was long before the junkyard was around. If I were the Robinsons,, I would move. I don't see anyone comming to their rescue in lockhart!
On 6/19/2009 12:52:40 PM, Whatif? said:
Interesting how LAMAR just dives into a conversation and tries to change the subject, makes comments with sly remarks but shies away when these same remarks are sent back his way. Is he so interested in Lockhart or is he just running from or being shunned by his buddies in his metrosexual environment? Maybe he finds it necessary to come among the common folks so he can exhume an air of sophistication. I guess LAMAR can’t cut it with the his fellow intellectuals anymore, or maybe he gets paid in beers for supporting the barmaid so she doesn’t make a fool of herself by blogging anymore. OR, maybe he is just trying to steer the conversation from the true topic of the neighbor having the right to PEACE and QUIET in his home. Your opinions do not help the residents; they are filled with hyperboles and probabilities. Let’s look at it this way: Probably the Dungeon Club needs to move and go to Lamar’s neighborhood. Maybe you can also take the drug pushers with you and let them trade in your neighborhood. Maybe you will have time to educate them on the finer points of etiquette, or maybe you should shut your trap and let the people in the problem deal with the barmaid who rents those buildings and tries so hard to wreck the Lockhart community while she makes her living, then run off to her quiet home. She will have to move. The last couple of times I passed there, patron counts were low, and I bet she is very concerned about that. Maybe she can stay with you and you can teach her how to relate to intelligent people when all this falls apart. OR maybe you should just stay drunk and stop trying to dictate the living conditions of independent homeowners. Do you know that she specializes in taking out injunctions for repeat violence? She averages approximately one per year since 2002. Maybe she will slap one on you when she finds out that you are a failing “brown noser” and a budding alcoholic.
The neighbor should not move; he has the right to be there. Maybe the other commenter should think of what he just said. He sounds like someone who spends most of his life running from what he knows not. Grow some balls all you so-called men! Apparently people fighting back for their rights is a new phenomenon for you.
I am also interested in this “Smiley Bob” drug dealer. Do you also get your fix from him? Tell me, does he really have his own beer mug or special glass at the Junkyard? I wonder how much he has to pay the barmaid to conduct his business there! Wouldn’t that make her a facilitator, collaborator and possibly a drug trafficker? No wonder she has stopped blogging when his name was called and let you start defending her dirty deeds instead. How about that guy selling BBQ food at the Junkyard with dust, sand, traffic pollution and germs all over it? How does he get away with that and no health concerns from the county? Does he also pay the same for his spot as Smiley Bob? I truly think the police needs to get involved in this.
Now answer this question: Who hung the “HANGMAN NOOSE” at this man’s fence? I wonder if it was the Barmaid or her paid supporters or staff or even the BBQ man! That is a far more important question to wrap your gray matter around, unless it is saturated with alcohol.
Instead of going after the neighbor you should check the background of this shady and evil barmaid. She thinks she can rule gangster-style and scare other people.
Keep speaking out, Lockhart residents! Don’t get dumped on by people who don’t live in your community, which includes the Barmaid and the sell-out Lamars of this country.
On 6/19/2009 2:08:18 PM, Lamar said:
I'm sensitive to the idea that noise, especially at night, is a negative externality. But where does it stop? What if your next door neighbor has noisy sex every night? What about somebody's noisy air conditioning unit? What about Harleys, loud trucks, people flushing an outboard, loud arguments, etc.? Can people who live close to I-4 require that cars stop using the highway at night? Maybe I offended or changed the subject. But I still haven't seen any of my points refuted or addressed. One doesn't have to be an intellectual to see that. And spare me the "you don't know what its like" routine. For 8 years I lived across the street from two hospitals, a heliport, a busy intersection and a heroin clinic.
On 6/19/2009 2:54:15 PM, Whatif? said:
Now I see why you are an alcoholic, possibly a drug user and a meddler in people's affairs. You want others to suffer the way you do. Now that the community knows where you stand, who you are and that you don't live around here, we can now ignore you and there will be no need for any further communication with you. Tell the Barmaid she can now return to blogging herself without a clumsy substitute like you.
On 6/19/2009 4:14:02 PM, Lamar said:
Meddler in other people's affairs? Aren't you the one advocating the forcible shut down of somebody else's business because you can't be bothered to soundproof your house that you bought in the cheapo part of town? You want peace and quiet? Buy a house in a quiet neighborhood, soundproof your current house, or buy the offending bar. And no, I don't live around there because I value peace and quiet (for my neighbors that is, I make a lot of noise). I pay for it. I didn't buy into a loud place and expect the government to fix my problems.
On 6/19/2009 9:20:42 PM, Whatif? said:
Don’t worry about who I am, better than you have tried and failed. I wish I was the neighbor, things would be far different. The barmaid did everything her intelligence allowed, including an injunction (her 5th injunction for repeat violence against her from 2002 to 2009, losing them all in court), in order to drive the neighbor off his property so that, as she and her people blogged on her dungeon website, he would Quit-claim-Deed his property to her so that they all can turn it into a “BIGGER DUNGEON”. You apparently have her side of the story, no doubt, over several mugs of free beer. Read my blogs above and be educated. I broke my word and communicate with you. I will endeavor to prevent such a reoccurrence. Tell the barmaid I miss her incoherent blabber.
On 6/20/2009 8:12:40 PM, Anonymous said:
This Whatif guy is right. What about this NOOSE at the man's fence. I think it's the barmaid herself or the BBQ man who put it there. This BBQ man always seems like a shady character to me. Looking at Nika's picture, she only needs a broom to complete the witch look. Maybe she is sitting on it. Not hard to spot "Smiley Bob", he is usually in cowboy boots and jeans. In fact I saw him there Thursday night. It is about time the police shut him down and the drug house Junkyard Saloon.
On 6/22/2009 10:28:36 AM, Lamar said:
Yeah, your personal dispute with the bar owner means the government should shut them down. Nice. All this other stuff is just a cover. You don't want the noise abated (which could easily be done), you want the bar gone and the owners run out of town. And THAT, my friends, is why government shouldn't get involved. Get a lawyer or get over it.
On 6/22/2009 9:20:16 PM, Anonymous said:
Things always seen different, when the roll is reversed. I guess that is really what you call karma. Always dig two pits, one for your brother and one for you. Kill the fly with a shovel then you are sure. One mans poison is another mans medicine. A witch is a witch because she believes she is a witch. Bedding with an ugly witch won’t bring you a beautiful child. Spit in the sky and it will fall in your eye. Crying in your beer won’t get you any more beer. Supporting a falling bridge will only give you a backache. Trying to kick a man from his home will only resulting in you being kicked from your home with your own shoe.
A Lockhart resident supporting my neighbors, the Robinsons.
On 6/23/2009 8:35:52 PM, Anonymous said:
That metal club is a poor image and a noisemaker in the community. There are no apparent benefits, just more drinkers, drugs, loud noise and traffic. We already have a strip club on OBT we don’t need this club. This is not a red light district. It should not be so close to a home. This home was there long before the club was opened just in front of its gate. She has been lying her skirt off all over this paper and who knows where else. How can you trust a liar? I saw this man renovating his entire property from scratch; I did not believe he could have made it look so nice. Things were so bad on the property that just walking within 50 feet of it would cause mosquitoes to swarm around you. If you went onto the lot you would get covered with fleas and all sort of creepy insects. Now he calls it home and the club wants him to move. Who else will they want to move after they drive this owner away? The more power they get the more they want. She rents, so she can find another location, even a better one for less. A lot of deals are out there now. The club needs to relocate. I too support my neighbor’s rights to live in his home.
On 6/25/2009 9:29:19 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar,since you have the bar owners ear, you should know who hang the hangman noose at the mans fence. Or you are just another outsider here to help bring down our community. Please answer this question or stop writing your nonsense. Enough of you already.
On 6/27/2009 11:38:16 PM, Anonymous said:
What happened at the Junkyard on Friday night? Cops were everywhere. Was there a raid? I hope so.
On 6/29/2009 1:51:23 PM, Anonymous said:
there are metalheads smoking crack in the parking lot? shit... can't believe i've been missing out for this long!
On 6/29/2009 6:18:22 PM, Anonymous said:
Hey I live in Lockhart, and go to the dungeon all the time. Rent's fucking cheap here, and the dungeon rocks. cold pbr's for a dollar and good bands kickin ass even with a wierdo next door making noises with a whistle in a megaphone or some shit. If you ask me, that's WAY more annoying then the dull rumble you might feel if you live on the street touching the dungeon. Maybe only two houses can even hear it. And thats with thier windows open. Get a life people. These kids need a place to play thier music. And 9 times out of 10, the patrios are the bands parents. You think they let thier kids smoke crack in the parking lot?
On 6/29/2009 6:30:25 PM, Anonymous said:
First of all to all the idiots who think Lockhart has ever been an outstanding community,how the fuck long have u lived here?I grew up here for the last 29 years and it aint been nothing but strip clubs,bars,rednecks,and the home to one of the largest motorcycle gangs in the world and we fucking love it!If you dont like it move your ass to lake mary or windermere,or wait u probably cant afford it!Not only do i work there i also live 2 streets over from the place as well as half the other employees.And to the dumbasses who think they know what goes on there,you must be coming in yourself or how else would come up with any of this bullshit!And vincent i think your dumbass whistle blowing has to bother u more than us all we got to do is go inside and shut the doors and enjoy our music,so now your obviously the one annoying the rest of the neighborhood.what a hypocrite!!!The bars been there for years and will be there for many more!Get a life losers!!!!!
On 6/29/2009 6:59:26 PM, Anonymous said:
PS maybe instead of having the police waste their time fucking with our bars they could spend it more usefully busting all the street walking crackwhores wandering our neighborhoods being picked up by rich yuppie assholes from your prestigious neighborhoods,which by the way have never been welcome at any of the so called white trash,redneck,evil music loving bars i have worked at here in lockhart!
On 6/29/2009 10:48:24 PM, Anonymous said:
funny when the cops found nothing at the Dungeon Whatif needs to get her crap together we will all laugh when the truth comes out. They support the Wiggle Inn the biggest drug users out there! including the Robinson's oh how funny it is I live right there and have seen it all to all the neighbors get a clue the Robinson's have called up on your homes and is running around blowing a loud whistle hiding behind his bushes with no clothes on seams to me he has flipped out! I'm afraid to even walk in front of his house sure as hell do not want to see that! I have done my homework on this mysterious Robinson's talk about courts they are always in the courts If they are losing everything they have then how do they have the money to survive? Drugs perhaps. I can only hope that you are free and clear of anything that you consume because the way you are acting is the same way the Robinson's are I refuse to have any involvement in your scam against anyone in the area. Get a job get a life hide in a box already show your name!!!!!! living here on journal being damed if I drink a beer WTF!!!!!
On 6/29/2009 10:57:08 PM, Anonymous said:
IF THE ROBINSON'S HAVE THESE HIGH TECH CAMERAS THEN THEY SHOULD KNOW WHO DID THIS BUT I GUESS IT IS SO EASY TO BLAME THE BARMAID!
I THINK IT WAS ALL MADE UP MYSELF THE ROBINSON'S ONLY SHOW HOW STUPID AND RACIST THEY ARE HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE BANNERS ACROSS THE FENCE LINE, MIND YOU IT'S ALL FROM THEM HAVE NOT SEEN ANY BANNERS ON THE BARS PROPERTY! THINK IT'S JUST A SCAM TO RUN HER OUT OF BUSINESS SEAMS TO ME THAT THE ROBINSON,S ARE CONNECTED TO A SECRET GANG AND TO ANOTHER LOCAL BAR! IF THE BARMAID IS SO BAD WHY ARE YOU GOING ON AND ON ABOUT THE SAME OLD CRAP? I WAS THERE SATURDAY NITE LOOKED AT ALL THE SIGNS HEARD THE NOISES COMING FROM HIS PROPERTY SAW THE MAN HIDING BEHIND THE FENCE LAUGHING.....FUNNY THING THE COPS WHERE CALLED ON HIM SO WHO IS IN THE WRONG? IF YOU ARE NOT THERE THEN HOW CAN YOU BE THE ONE TO JUDGE? IF YOU ONLY COME INTO A BAR TO SNOOP AROUND TO TRY TO GET DIRT THEN YOUR HANDS ARE JUST AS DIRTY!
On 6/30/2009 6:09:02 AM, Anonymous said:
Hello a relative of the Barmaid you seam to call a witch a devil or any of your other slang remarks. You people have no clue on what you are talking about, If it was one of your family memebers that this was happening to you would be in a uproar if you say no then you are a liar or you have no family values. Your just angry Whatif because you are just trying to hide behind your true colors! You are not going to tear our family apart with your insane remarks your only trying to ruin a woman who is in business. If you do not like the bar then don't go If you do not like society then go to a Island. Why do you feel the need to place a label on anyone what gives you the right or authority to do so? If you want to be so involved in the community of Lockhart then why don't you feed the hungry on Thanksgiving or give Christmas to the children instead of the barmaid? If drugs are a issue in your community then instead of you knocking on the doors asking the neighbors to run off the bar, maybe you should then ask for drug test and background checks on everyone don't forget to ask the Robinson's to participate in all of your rules. I happened to be there the night of all the cops where there nothing went wrong nothing happened all was good accept that the police saw the famous Robinson's in action so I think you should put a check on your own and maybe you should mind your own P's and Q's before judging others. I did not realize that the color of your skin or tha nationality or being a woman in business was a crime, talk about reverse discrimination! Since when is it a crime to listen to music,dance,laugh drink a beer a glass of wine go to a bar? You act like you are the saint of Lockhart what have you done for the community? The only thing that I have seen here is your violent outburst to one bar owner, You do not pay attention to any other bar not even the one located 2 lots away you are just focused on her and her broom and her rights to allow people to be people, I would rather stand up surround myself with people who are real then someone who hides behind a computer trashing others, as well as allowing several women to get hurt by a man. It seams that the Robinson's have all the high tech cameras loaded and ready to go watching every move in the area so there should be no question in anyones mind on who does what.Insulting signs posted all over the Robinson's house/office looks tacky he is only trying to get a rise out of everyone. All are laughing everytime a new sign gets posted there is a privacy law and I do think they have gone a bit to far. Some people have class some do not. Put a check on the rooster that is located around the block did not realize this was zoned for that! Just stop it already go to a gym work out your frustrations on the machines not on humans!!!!! HAIL TO THE DUNGEON!
On 6/30/2009 1:34:04 PM, Anonymous said:
I like the one statement blamming the barmaid for a bike driving in front of your house, that is a good one how can you make such a stupid remark do people have to go around your house if they drive or maybe they are only allowed to have large trucks with rebel flags on it. Lockhart a nice country place to live yes maybe about 40 years ago now all neighborhoods are filled with crime I live in a gated community that is by choice we have crime still the same way you all do, Crime does not care about the location they only care about the drugs,money and how they can destroy others. I do remember years ago when It was called Brenda's and I do remember how rough dirty and drugs all over the place. So how can you say that just because of music it's a bad place to be? You are only using these harsh words saying that everyone that goes to this place is using drugs how can you be so sure about that? It only appears to me that you are like a dog with a bone and you are trying to close down only one bar. What about the strip club? what about the Wiggle Inn? are you saying that they are bringing in to much traffic,drugs,and so on? You have the same rights as everyone else does why do you place only one person on your cross of hatred? I think if you want to be a busy buddy you should take a closer look at all the business that goes on in the area maybe even put a check on the kids who jump over the fence and break into the cars in the area. Who is responsible for your children? maybe you should get off the computer and raise your kids the proper way would not put it passed me If your kids where on drugs also take a look on crime reports by your address look at all the minor kids that are in jail and the reason! DRUGS are you going to blame the barmaid for your lack of responsibilty of being a good parent? You seam to be the type of person that calls the police if your neighbor has one blade of grass to high on there lawn, I would love to come view your so called high end neighborhood and see the condition of all the homes after viewing the Robinson's home across from the bar I'm not to impressed fences all over locks and chains tarps hanging over buildings loud barking dogs garbage all over the place, Then you look at the back end of someone elses house with garbage pouring out the back door dogs chained to a tree explain this to all of us. Nobody is really interested in the way you live but you all made the choice to get in the lights of the media and push and shove until you get your own way. Do we all feel sorry for you, No because you judge and make up your own rules to cover up your dirty way of living.
On 7/1/2009 11:08:29 PM, Anonymous said:
Hey, Nika, I heard it through the grapevine that you are going on the Judge Judy Show with the Robinsons. You are finally getting your big break to be on National and International TV., just what you have been hoping for a LONG TIME! The big media did not want to take your story when you went to them the first time, so you only get the little media, ORLANDO WEEKLY, to print your story. Now is your BIG CHANCE! If I were you, I would expose him right there in front of Judge Judy, he would have to move back to his little island! (LOL)! After you win your case on the Judge Judy Show, we can celebrate by having our MOSHFEST 2009 by the end of July as you were planning. At that time we can have all the major media covering our shows as we did last year. That was a BLAST!! I know after being exposed on Judge Judy, MOSHFEST 2009 will be even better since we will all be celebrating your success.
By the way, I read in your blog on Orlando Weekly where you said you saw the Robinson guy in his yard without clothes on. You must have taken a photo of him and called all the bar patrons to see and take photos of him. Why don’t you put those photos on your Website so everyone can have access to them?
Did you see his DICK and get HORNY! Just Joking (LOL)!
On 7/2/2009 10:37:16 AM, Anonymous said:
Alas, the barmaid is back!! I missed you and the jovial memories of stupidity coupled with determination. A colleague expressed a brilliant idea to me yesterday: Why don’t you take your bands to your gated community and see how your neighbors would like that? What is this thing about a whistle and a megaphone from the neighbor? I have seen and heard the thundering of the bands from instruments that value thousand of dollars, shaking my beer glass even from across the Junkyard. A little whistle over a megaphone! NONENSE! You and your crowd need to get off the crack and weed. Now I see your medications and Smiley Bob’s drugs are getting to you. You seem to have a major crush on that neighbor guy! You always see him at nights doing stuff when nobody else does and now you are IMAGINING SEEING HIM NAKED! You see him over your bar, behind your dumpster and now in his yard NAKED! Are you stalking him? Pretty soon you will imagine being in bed with him! You are obviously a VERY UNHAPPY AND VERY LONELY WOMAN who desperately needs a REAL MAN. Just remember one thing: “Once you go black you can’t turn back.”
Remember all those racial slurs you and your supporters were casting on this neighbor? Those were really hateful and ugly. Now he asks a simple question: “WHO HUNG THE HANGMAN NOOSE BY HIS FENCE?” Stop dancing around and answer him. Was it YOU or who? You don’t care about him or his family, just your profits. You lie and lie on this man, now it’s starting to weigh on your mind. 8 lost cases in Court, 4 injunctions lost! You are definitely showing signs of lunacy. You owe your previous landlord over $20,000, as shown in Judgment, and tried to steal their condo - all on county records. Lies, lies, lies. Get your mind off this man and his home. You destroy the lives you touch.
Some members of these “motorcycle gangs” have fought to secure the freedom you are trying to take from this neighbor. The neighbor is a patriot. Many of these guys have seen more than they would care to admit. Believe me, I know. You, the Barmaid, should stop hiding behind them. Come out like a “Junkyard dog”. If you don’t, your life and soul will be as useless and empty as a rusty and dark Dungeon. Stop trying to be a gangster and apologize to the neighbor; it would do your mind good.
You started this media charade; now you can’t handle it. All the neighbor is doing is giving you just a little taste of what you have been giving him for years, but you can’t swallow your own medicine!
To the community of Lockhart, you still have a great community. Don’t let some stranger barmaid who do not live here and her drug pushing partners destroy your neighborhood. At the end of the night, she slips away to her gated community, washes the Lockhart dust off her hands and feet and then blogs bad things about all of you all night. She does not care about your community, only the money she can make here!
On 7/3/2009 7:24:29 AM, Anonymous said:
Well hello little ass! I have not been on this blog for awhile now I love the stupid remarks you make about me a real man I need? Hmm Well why don;t you tell my husband that one, and why do you keep on making racial remarks like you did in your statements. How do you know if I live in a gated community or not? and as far as owing a Landlord for a condo you once more are mistaken. Motorcycle gangs? The neighbor a patriot? a hangman noose? hmm all these questions and of course the real you we all know who that is! I think what the main problem here is that you are trying to cover up this mysterious hangman noose, I really think It was you that must have placed it up probably for us being that you dislike the bikers the bar and so on. Maybe you should stop drinking because your imagination is getting the best of you...
Hateful and ugly? are you talking about yourself and your famous insults towards me? You are the type of person who truly gets off on this we are all sitting here laughing at you and your remarks. The lawyers today as well as the police department know exactly what is going on here my advice to you is this. Show your face to the public before you get caught at destroying other peoples lives, funny how you never discuss the neighbors dirty deeds on public records nor do you speak about yourself. I have no control over anyone who writes on this blog so do not think you are that important to anyone.
Naked who you? If you are sexually frustrated there are places and porn sites for you to join into instead of this site. Do not insult me or the neighbor by saying that there is some sort of sexual thing here because it is not true at all. I think if anyone owes anything to the neighbor you owe the apology for expressing such a horrible statement like that. If anyone wants to know who hung the hangman noose ask the Robinson's to view his camera's and then let me know who the hell did this task, because after viewing all of my tapes I see nothing of the sort so I truly think somebody has made this up.
Just for your information try searching the public records on the neighbor and get over it already! You might want to check in on them owing thousands to local banks or for the many people they sued and have made homeless. I know that all properties located on Busby and 441 are zoned commercial and as of April the neighbor is zoned C1, Also check into public records on the many violations that the neighbors have and outstanding fines. On commercial property you are not allowed to display and signs so his 12 signs that are posted up are not legal. Stalking like you do is also against the law just like taking somebody's personel information and using that to your own benefit or for slander. I'm truly sorry for you, You must feel very empty inside and very alone I really have no idea why you keep on using other peoples names on this site you seam to be hell bent on ruining this man you call Smiling Bob why is that? Why do you keep on saying that I do drugs? It's funny because If you truly know me like you claim to then you would never say that. Seek some help for your addictions and your anger. How can you say that the neighbor is giving me a taste for years I do not even know the man for years get it right gangster. I really wonder if the neighbors know what your saying about them? All of this is not doing them any good I will still keep to myself like I have been doing unlike you sticking your nose into everyone elses problems like you can solve anything. Until the day you can solve your own problems then maybe that will be the day we will all listen to your trash talking take a laxative already and do us all a big favor and flush your bull down the toilet! Go right ahead and try to make a fool of me on here whatever I don't care anymore as long as I know I'm responsible for you getting yourself off on viewing my comment back to you, Hmm makes me feel kinda like a Star!!!! Thanks douchbag try one of those dating services on line if you can tell the truth maybe someone will have you. Funny how you talk about the neighbor like that hmm last time I looked at the camera I saw some pretty interesting things going on you better watch what your doing there all eyes are looking now!!!!!Sorry have to go now need to go purchase another one of my brooms like so said in your past blog that was a good one lol..... Burning me at the stake that one is not cool your running lip is making all of think you are the one who hung this mysterious noose watch out the Junkyard Dog is getting closer to the real you!!!!!!
On 7/3/2009 7:33:42 AM, Anonymous said:
ALAS!!!!! I GOT IT I KNOW WHO YOU ARE THAT IS FREAKING GREAT THANKS WILL HAVE A SUPER GREAT NIGHT NOW!!!!!ZOOM ZOOM ON MY BROOM!
On 7/3/2009 8:11:27 AM, Anonymous said:
I am one of those proud homeowners whose family has been living on Journal Avenue for approximately 40 years and we all feel very offended by the insulting comments Nika of the Junkyard Saloon and Dungeon and also her employees and friends have been writing in the Orlando Weekly about Lockhart residents and the kinds of homes we live in and so forth. Some people have no idea what it feels like to own their own home, even if it’s a hut, and especially when you are not paying any mortgage. The freedom you feel far exceeds any feeling a renter can feel, even if they live in a gated community, because somebody else owns the property they live in or do business in. So these people have no loyalty to the residents of this community and they go about saying all these horrible things about our community. Why then, if our Lockhart community is so crime infested that this woman choose to come here and operate her business? She is the one that allows drugs to be sold and used in her bar and on her other rented premises on Busby, allows teenagers that come out for her shows to drink illegally, smoke weed and do other drugs in the parking lot and elsewhere on her properties. Also, the many fights that break out inside and outside her bars from time to time where the police have to be called are far too common. Our community was very peaceful and quiet until 2007 when she opened up her metal club at the Dungeon. Everyone on Journal Avenue and others living close to her club have to be living with the loud music and curse words that come from this club. The only problem is that we did not think we could do anything about it even though we are being affected by it. Now Mr. Robinson is doing something about this noise since he is the one living closest to it is something we are all glad for. We feel sorry for him and his wife because this woman Nika, her employees, band members, friends and supporters have put them through hell in the few months they moved back to their property. When Brenda of Brenda’s Watering Hole was running the business that is now called the Junkyard Saloon, there was no problem there. We would all go there, relax, have a few drinks, listen to music and have small talks, but we certainly did not have the loud noise from this Dungeon that we have today. That’s because there was no Dungeon and no metal music. It was a landscape company that occupied that building. At the end of the day the workers went home so everything was peaceful and quiet. Brenda’s bar was not a problem.
Now this woman Nika has certainly put the Lockhart community into the spotlight when she went to the Orlando Weekly complaining about being arrested for violating the Noise Ordinance and Disturbing the Peace and Quiet. She blames the neighbor for her problems and complained about him moving to a commercial property, she said illegally. That’s for Zoning to decide, not her. Obviously, Zoning does not have a problem with it. She and Orlando Weekly lied about how much he paid for his property and who he bought it from. Well, as someone who has been living on Journal Avenue about thirty-five years before the Robinsons bought their property in 2003, I know the facts. I remember it was on the market for sale for about a year until the bushes covered the real estate sign because nobody wanted it. At that time it was selling for $150,000. The house in the back on Busby Avenue was fit to be torn down and everyone thought that’s exactly what the Robinsons were going to do, tear this old house down. But the worse thing about the property is that it was a DUMP, literally. The property was not fenced off, the owners lived in Tennessee and for years tree cutters from all over Orlando would just dump all the trees they cut down from other people’s property onto this property now owned by the Robinsons. There were piles and piles of all these dumped trees, old tires, stones, old furniture and other garbage on the property. That resulted in the place being infested with every kind of insect you could imagine - roaches, mosquitoes, ants of every kind, and various other kinds of bugs and insects. It was so bad, all these bugs and insects would also come onto our property and other neighboring properties. We could not even stay outside of our house for too long, especially at nights, because we would constantly get bitten by these bugs. That property was the worst one in the entire neighborhood. Also, Busby Avenue was a place where prostitutes hung out and get picked up day and night. It too was filled with garbage. That’s why nobody wanted to buy the property, especially for the money the previous owners were asking for it.
After the Robinsons purchased it in 2003, immediately Code Enforcement came in, even though they never did anything about the condition of it all the years these truckers and others were dumping on it. The Robinsons immediately started cleaning up the property. They rented large dumpsters and hired a company that had large trucks that they used to pull off the tons and tons of trees, wood cuttings, old tires, stones and other garbage off the property – at least 20 truck loads of it. Next they hired other companies with tractors and they came with the big tractors and also smaller tractors and leveled off the property. The Robinsons also hired other people in the community to help restore the property and make it into what it is today. So they have contributed to the community of Lockhart in a large way. They are the ones who also cleaned up Busby Avenue, because people used to dump old tires, mattresses, old furniture, old clothes, etc. on the street. Not to mention the bottles that were thrown on Busby Avenue by people who drink at the two bars at the ends of the street and other people driving along Busby Avenue.
We are shocked that the Orlando Weekly, Nika, her employees and supporters have written in the article above and have been blogging that the Robinsons bought this property for only $10,000 and that they stole it from two old ladies living in a nursing home. Where did all that come from? Those are all false rumours and lies and meant to be malicious, vindictive, defamatory and to drum up public support and sympathy for Nika and her metal club. The record shows that the Robinsons Quit Claim Deed the property to their company in 2008, so an employee at the Property Appraiser’s office wrote a figure there of $10,800. They could easily have put down $100, as they sometimes do whenever there is a Quit Claim Deed. That does not mean the Robinsons bought it for that price. Is Orlando Weekly, Nika and these other people saying that wherever they see properties on the Property Appraiser’s Report as Quit Claim Deeds with figures of $100, that’s that’s what these properties were sold for? The Orlando Weekly Writer and his editor should have known better. They are presumed to be educated and knowledgeable about things they write, print and published in the newspaper and on the Internet. This false information, together with the many other false information printed in the article and the blogs are inflammatory, if nothing else, because it has led the public to believe that the Robinsons go about “stealing properties from old ladies in nursing homes for only $10,000” as Nika, her employees and now various other people blogged! That is so WRONG because it’s all LIES. Not even in this bad real estate market it’s even possible to get a property for $10,000, even in the same or worse condition that the Robinsons purchased theirs back in 2003. The Orlando Weekly could easily have verified from the county record how much the Robinsons actually purchased the property for and who they purchased it from because it’s all there in the Property’s Appraiser’s report, but they chose not to because they were in league with Nika to try to defame and disparage the good name of the Robinsons and blame them for all Nika’s problems.
After the Robinsons purchased the DUMP and cleaned it up, they built a brand new house in the front of their property on Journal Avenue in 2005 and they hired people in the neighborhood to help build and landscape their property. They also hired people in the community to help restore the home they now live in on Busby Avenue. I personally happen to know that they have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on their property over the years since they purchased it. They continue to improve on it even to this day. They have transformed the place into a real beauty. Everybody who knows what this placed looked like prior to the Robinsons purchasing it is pleasantly surprised about what they have done to restore this property, and especially their home on Busby Avenue. That home is like brand new now. There is no garbage on their property as Nika blogged. Beautiful landscaping, flowers, hedges and trees have been planted by them since they moved back recently. They had lived on this property before in both their homes on Journal and on Busby, so they were there years before Nika arrived on the scene. They personally cleaned up Busby Avenue of all the garbage that was on the street, even when they were not living there. The prostitutes on Busby Avenue have all gone elsewhere. They have contributed so much to our community here in Lockhart and we are very proud to call them neighbors. I happen to know that both Mr. & Mrs. Robinson are very educated, professional people who are honest, decent, kind, hardworking and who do not involve themselves with drugs of any kind, or people of questionable character and are not the kind to get involved in such things or do any of the things Nika accused the Robinsons of. Everybody around here knows that all the things she wrote in her injunction were LIES. Thank God, the court saw through her lies, realized that she was just being retaliatory, vindictive and malicious because she got arrested for breaking the law and because she is jealous of the Robinsons, and also because she wants to drive them off their property so she can continue destroying our neighborhood with her noise, alcohol and drugs. That’s why Nika and her employees, band members, patrons and supporters have campaigned against them so hard, harassed them so much and violated their privacy, constitutional and civil rights as soon as they moved back onto their property and continuously. That’s why Nika also pulled a false injunction on the man. The Robinsons should be given a medal instead of being treated so terribly by this outsider woman who rents the properties she occupies. She obviously conspired with her employees, patrons, band members and supporters to help harass and destroy this man and his wife. That’s why they kept photographing them, videotaping them, their dogs, their house and everything on their property and lying about them on the video and elsewhere and then making a video about them and posted it on the Internet. That’s why they also lie about them in all their blogs in the OrlandoWeekly and the Dungeon website. These people are all very evil and wicked, to say the least. They obviously seem to be devil worshippers if they can do all these things to these wonderful people. Hopefully they will all read these facts and pass the truth on to others.
On 7/3/2009 12:43:33 PM, Anonymous said:
Nika, stop pretending that YOU are not YOU! Everybody knows when you write something. So stop the crap about not being on this blog for a while. You are the one blogging and blogging and blogging, as if you can't go to sleep at nights. Remember the "LIPSTICK ON THE PIG" comment? You just cannot disguise yourself no matter how hard you try. And recently, you have not even been trying because you get caught anyway. Your horrible way of writing, idiosyncrasies, awful grammar and spelling are your hallmarks! You have so many different personalities, it's frightening. You must be bi-polar! It's just your different personalities that have written most of the blogs between June 29 & 30 and many of the previous blogs prior to that. Then you talk about not being on the blog for a while. LIAR!! No wonder you are confused with your own self, just like you were confused when you gave the court and the police various and very different versions and dates of the same incidents you claimed that poor gentleman and his dogs caused or did to you, your employees, patrons, customers and band members. Where were all those videocameras, cellphone cameras and various other cameras you and all these various people always had and were always using on the neighbors every opportunity you all had and on a daily basis? Where was Eric, your main videographer? Where is the evidence of this man ever coming on to your property, be it the Junkyard Saloon or the Dungeon, and doing or saying all the things you accused him of? Where is this white Pitbull you said this other person (not the neighbor) ran you down with and that he was coming from the neighbor’s yard? Who saw that happened other than you saying it did? When did he ever call you, your employees and others “White Trash Bitches?” Who else heard him say that? NOBODY BUT YOU, IN YOUR VIVID IMAGINATION!! Why one minute you said you jumped up on top of your bonnet to get away from this Pitbull and the next time you stated that you opened your car door and flew inside? Why is it that the same incident happened, one time in March, but when you next reported it the date was in April and not March? You did not even blog about this Pitbull incident in your Dungeon blogs or even mentioned it in the Orlando Weekly to Jeffrey Billman or in your blogs there. Where are your witnesses? Where were your surveillance cameras? Where are all these other people that the neighbor supposedly caused harm? Where are the police reports from you, your employees, customers, band members and patrons reporting any of the things you and you alone accused the neighbor of doing to you and all these people? Where are your invoices or paperwork from Brighthouse and the AC technician to show that your telephone and AC went out when you accused the neighbor of doing something to them and you had them fixed? Where is the evidence to show that you were out of these services for two days as you said? Why did not one of these hundreds of people hold onto the neighbor and called the police when you accused him of coming onto your property and committing these vicious acts against you and others? Your place was never empty when these things supposedly happened. Your very imaginative mind has always been playing tricks on you, just like one of your many personalities told you that you saw the man naked in the night when mosquitoes would bite the hell out of everyone, especially if they are naked! Not because you are a NUT why you think this neighbor and everyone else are nuts like you. You are not just a NUT – really, really CRAZY - but you are extremely STUPID! You are a habitual, uncontrollable, pathological LIAR, and getting worse and worse. When will you go and get professional help from a mental health specialist or psychiatrist? Who are you to complain about signs on the man's property? Remember your demonstrations and various signs by you, your employees, your friends, your chief videographer Eric, other camera crew and supporters shortly after you got out of jail in April? Some of your signs state: "Don't Hate C-3", "Metal Music Has Rights," "The Dungeon Has Rights?" "Don't Silence the Music" “We were here First” “Freedom of Expression”, etc. etc? You even had some of your signs on the Government STOP sign by National and OBT for months until the rains and the wind tore them down. You did not consider those TACKY? But now the neighbors put up their signs, you are calling them TACKY and complaining about them, and asking if there is not a law against that? How can you complain about noise from a whistle and a megaphone, according to you, when your heavy metal music rocks the entire neighborhood? You are nothing but a HYPOCRITE and very HATEFUL and EVIL!!
On 7/3/2009 5:04:40 PM, Anonymous said:
You think you know who I am. I know who I am and I know who you are. But do you really know who you are? After Judge Judy is finished with you, you will need to go and get help from Dr. Phill.
On 7/3/2009 6:16:31 PM, Anonymous said:
To bad your not going to get the satisfaction or free ticket to go to LA, because we are not going sorry about that your scam of trying to get us on the show was crushed by our lawyers so in your face. The lies hmm think about all the lies you are telling in time all the video will be placed up and pictures just so it shuts you all up. The one thing that you do not stress is that you keep on making yourself sound so wonderful while you accuse and use others for yourself to look better. I never claimed to be so perfect like you do. Your real funny you talk and talk about the same things over and over but you always seam to avoid the darkness that comes from within you! Do you think I would write all these things from the above people, Hell no yes I have all the evidence I need but of course I will not allow you to get to me. I love how you say about Brenda'a Watering hole ha you supported that bar well of course she was one of the biggest drunks and pill user as well as other things no wonder why you are pissed she is not there anymore, Sorry you can not get your fix. You are the lowest person in society and you truly do not bother me anymore I hope you get yourself off with continue with your blah blah!!!!!
Laws are Laws and yes you all break them I do not know or care about how much the property was or is If all of you continue on and on trashing a person then I will continue on and on running my shows everyday so I better get off here and start booking 7 days a week instead of 4. Have a Happy 4th and hopefully you won't waste the time of the police to call on the community about any loud noise from fireworks get a clue because we all know the real you!!!!! Don't see any signs on my property so who is breaking the laws? YOU
On 7/4/2009 6:21:06 PM, Anonymous said:
Robinsons, remember this next time you accuse your nieghbor of lies and being, "devil's music". I have been at the dungeon for multiple christian shows, and have only good things to say about this place. So, I say again, remember the words of our lord jesus christ:
"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also; and if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your cloak as well; and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him who would borrow from you. You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust." (Matthew 5:38:45 RSV)
And also forget not that in Romans 13:8-10, Paul says:
Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not bear false witness," "You shall not covet," and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
On 7/6/2009 1:50:22 PM, Anonymous said:
Total signs on the neighbors property are 20 very artistic with our names posted in bright red dripping paint. Nobody else in the area has any posted signs so why is it that the neighbor keeps on trying to say they do no wrong?Reverse discrimination slander for a operating a business. Just because one person dislikes another gives them the power to abuse the system abuse the laws? I like that these people can jump into other peoples lives say what they want to do what they want to and then twist everything onto the bar. It's very sad that all are amused by such hateful remarks, And you all say how peaceful Lockhart is or was. You all are acting like a gang all of your hands are dirty trying to get one bar out of a commercial property while you allow other bars to stay. Seams like you discriminate I guess the best thing to do is talk to all the business owners in the area that have been operating for years to go up against all that think we should go while you all take the easy way out of life! You all have sold out ask yourself why would you allow one man to buy you out? Maybe you all should stop paying so much attention to the bar and pay more attention on other people who are getting robbed on a daily basis. Just the other night 3 local businesses where attacked why is that? You claim to have control of your area, but I feel you only have time to gang up on one person one place, Your hands are dirty and your mind is of the chain.
On 7/6/2009 11:57:03 PM, Whatif? said:
Barmaid, you are as dumb as you are stupid. You got a chance to go on Judge Judy show where you would get a free ticket to L.A., finally enjoy the comforts of a luxury hotel, get your judgment paid for, put your UGLY MUG on T.V., and there would not be any record of this case in the Orange County files nor would there be any stored files on you, and you stupidly turned it down. The only “lawyer” that could have advised you must have been that idiotic LAMAR. You think the neighbors need a free trip to LA.? You need the break; it is telling on your face. The neighbors travel the world in comfort whenever they choose. They were giving you an easy way out. Now you will face the County Court and your problems will be long term. When the Court is done with you, you will not have enough credit to buy even a joint.
To the pacifist goodie-goodie holier-than-thou preacher who hopped onto the blog and started quoting scripture, you obviously did not read the blogs from the beginning. They were all attacking the neighbor. The barmaid said all the negative things you accuse the neighbor of saying. I would suggest to the neighbor, if someone strikes you on the right cheek, make sure that hand never strike another again! Abuse comes through fear. Comfort lies in the pretense of ignorance! Who cares if the barmaid thinks she is playing devil’s music? She is LOONY enough to think worse, like seeing the neighbor naked. Go preach on a lynx bus or to her Junkyard patrons, and while you are there, get a drink; it will give you some UMPH.
Funny, but the Dungeon’s 4th of July show was a bust & 5th of July show was a bust. In fact, all of June’s shows were also a bust. Keep this up and the barmaid will go bust, an obvious difference from last years’ shows. I notice there is a significant staff reduction. Wonder if that’s because her patrons are seeing the lies she has been barfing up at will and are simply getting their entertainment elsewhere!
Another minor thing to remember, the 1st Amendment Rights is for all people living in the USA, not just the Barmaid. She taught the neighbor this when she and her supporters protested by his fence with various signs, when she lied through her teeth to the Orlando Weekly, when she lied continuously in her Dungeon Website blogs, when she told the bar patrons lies about her neighbor. The Barmaid is burning in her own fire and nailing herself to her own cross, bought and erected by her. Her crazy ass is biting her crazy ass. She has permanent multiple personalities. Who is who? Which of her personalities is loonier? I have traveled to many corners of the world and the only thing I have seen typical of the Barmaid’s behavior is usually wrapped in a straight jacket and caged in a padded room. Barmaid, “Get over yourself already” find some comfort in your ignorance; have a drink. Go find another location before you loose it all. Your persistence is causing your neighbor to become more persistent and the little I know of him is, you will finish last.
On 7/7/2009 5:09:05 AM, Anonymous said:
Do you honestly think that you can judge others without us knowing who you really are think about what you write first you said the neighbors travel all over the world then at the end you say you do. As far as Judge Judy is concerned maybe we will maybe we won't but it appears that you are the one who wants to get your face all over the television not only that Robinson you have family over in Cali so do not think that we are all stupid over here. Your nasty name calling like you look like movie stars that is a good one. I like what you say about the shows being slow in the month of June but yet you all bitch and complain saying I wish she would stop! 10 days in a row blah blah.... Well just to let you know no it's not going to stop even when you come out of your cage screaming at new bands telling them that you need to take care of this place also asking questions what time do you go on who are you? We all have your game silly I guess the last straw you have is to try to make fun of people and make fun of whites. If you all have so much money then why do you all lock yourself up hide from the law hide from society? padded room I do not think you would pass any medical exam as far as somebody going bust check out Bank of America and Wells Fargo who sued who? who just lost several pieces of property? Entertainment well let me tell you sweetheart or shall I call you sybil! We all enjoy the nightly entertainment from across the street everynight It's funny how they think playing loud whistle sounds that even the proper authorties have heard, or writing signs or getting on this blog insulting everyone is going to hurt us. It's funny you are known from state to state your signs are posted on all the bands sites I guess this is what you wanted to be a star. I think you should understand you are the liar it's all posted right now the signs yes we all have Amendment Right but you think they only apply to you. You speak so nasty to anyone who writes on this even if they speak of religion you also keep on talking about burning me on a cross what kind of people are you? As far as my staff they are all here just some of them are sick and tired of being abused by you, What gives you the right to lay a hand on anyone? You are the most insulting form of a human I have ever laid my eyes on. Why don't you take one of the corners of the world you claim to have travelled and park your rear in the middle of traffic, because we are all not interested in being forced into your lifestyle your slang racial remarks gives you away. Call me whatever you like say whatever you feel just remember one thing your persistence will only cause you to be left in a small pile of dust lonely and filled with hatred. I love that you can dish it out but when somebody gets you the only thing you have is to trash people.
I love how you first start talking about kids smoking in the parking lot then you start talking about the staff then the customers then my face then this and that. What will be next? Maybe we should hold a festival just for you a matter of fact I think I will do that just to show you that the Dungeon will continue on playing music continue on moving foward to bigger and better shows. Stone by stone we will place a wall to protect us against the evil sided people like you. You will not stop us so give up already! I will challenge you anyday since you like playing games come on bring it be a stand up person meet me in the streets with the police and other county officials and explain yourself on why you feel you are better than anyone else in society why you feel you have the right to punish the younger generation or punish the white woman you so hate? I bet you anything you will not show your face although we all see it everyday! this is all old news. Talk about being caged up hmm think about that statement and yes this is the typical words from a racist person who lives in Lockhart! How much are you paying all these people to write these horrible things? and How much are you paying all the people in Lockhart? Very funny half the people who come into my bar live right there, they all think it's disgusting how a new face in the area has caused so much drama for the entire area. just try to SHUT UP ALREADY! I know this will be hard for you since you stay up all night long writing and writing you poor soul I feel sorry for you.
I do not finish Last!!!!! you started this battle I will finish the war!!!!! Ciao the broom! oh yes one more thing you need to fix the one sign that has DUMB ASS It's running from the rain also you are always talking about my spelling make your corrections now who is the Dumb Ass here? This is making me really laugh thanks :)
On 7/7/2009 5:16:22 AM, Anonymous said:
THE DUNGEON WILL BE HAVING SEVERAL BLOCK PARTIES IN THE MONTHS AHEAD SO ALL YOU MUSIC LOVERS COME CHECK IT OUT MUSIC ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT CHECK OUT THE DUNGEON MYSPACE FOR DETAILS.... THANKS TO ALL THE SUPPORTERS OF THE DUNGEON! FROM THE STAFF
On 7/7/2009 9:47:07 AM, Anonymous said:
This woman sounds like a real loser! She obviously seems to be going crazy, I can't follow a thing she said. She curses out Lockhart then she begs for our support. The guy must be right, it really seems that she is on Bob's stuff. That thing will drive you insane, I have seen what it can do. She needs to get on her man's stuff instead. She also needs to get some sleep.
On 7/7/2009 11:05:19 AM, Anonymous said:
I wonder if Nika pays into Unemployment and Workers Comp., for her employees at the Junkyard and Dungeon. She laid off some of them and they are complaining that they have no unemployment benefits. That is very dishonest and she is breaking the law. The labor department needs to pay her a visit. And she claims she support Lockhart residents? HELL NO!!
On 7/7/2009 11:53:19 AM, Lamar said:
There are a number of reasons why a laid-off employee would not get unemployment benefits. Publicly stating that somebody is breaking the law can be defamation, so you should be careful when you start talking about things you aren't sure about. And, FYI, it would be the Florida Department of Revenue that would investigate that, not the Department of Labor (which is a federal agency). Hope this helps.
On 7/7/2009 12:11:23 PM, Anonymous said:
That is a good one no employees are laid off! All employees are still working there for over 4 years. And If you know the bar bizz you should know that bartenders are sub contractors, Family does not count as well as owners. I love that you talk about smoking when someone replies to you. Funny how you run a business out of your home without even being registered. We all know what is going on here maybe you should place a check on yourself with the Department of Revenue, Or maybe you should continue on hiding out like you have in the past. I like how you use my name all over the internet as well as all over your signs, your friendly tenant who runs over to the bar to look around and spy well we all know who he is. Funny how you speak about people being laid off the only one who has left for awhile is the valet man who you physically pushed down on 5-18-09 so who is the nutty person here? As far as doing any sort of drugs I do think It's you Lockhart knows you are the one who is trying to ruin everyone here. Are you pissed that we are going to have a block party? Do not see why It will employee several people. You claim to be all concerned about the community but then you try your best to take food from everyone by protesting the bars in the area. Place a check on your nasty mouth bring out a drug test lets see who passes. If anyone is a fraud It's you lay off already and stop trying to insult everyone.
On 7/7/2009 6:14:27 PM, Anonymous said:
These bar people sure talk crazy stuff. I guess everyone who goes to this bar is a suspect, no wonder that electrician got punched out a few weeks ago. They seem to have a private bar and no strangers are welcome. I think I will have a drink somewhere else. Don't want to loose my denture too. Is that preacher a drinker too, sure sounds like Johnny Bible from Georgia?
On 7/7/2009 6:21:27 PM, Anonymous said:
Thanks for the Unemployment info and Tell your friend she don’t have to be so mean to everyone who ask a question. We don’t know everything like her.
On 7/8/2009 12:00:23 AM, Anonymous said:
Why is it that throughout the article above and all the blogs that it is only this woman whose picture is in the article who talks about race? If it wasn’t for the mention of the “hangman noose” that was obviously tied outside the neighbor’s fence, together with all the mentions of “racial slurs” constantly being repeated by this Bar Owner and her constantly talking about “reverse discrimination” and saying she is white and that her neighbor hates all whites, would anybody be able to tell that the neighbor is black. Because my friends and I who all have been reading these blogs don’t see not one thing where her neighbor or other bloggers supporting him ever mention race in any of the blogs. Just because she has a dispute with her neighbor she wants to class her neighbor as a racist who passes racial remarks about her and others, but that’s not supported in the blogs anywhere. Any intelligent person who can read will agree with me that this neighbor is definitely not a racist. It is clear who the racist is, and it is this Bar Owner. Nika, from your blogs, it seems as if you are trying to get support because you are white, not because you are right. That’s racist in itself. Just by you constantly accusing the neighbor of being a racist when he has never written anything racial, my friends and I have now come to the conclusion that you are the racist and you are extremely wicked.
On 7/8/2009 12:55:32 PM, Anonymous said:
Y ALL ARE A BUNCH OF IDLE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO.WHY DONT YOU ALL MAKE IT INTO A SOAP OPERA CALLED NEIGHBOR V NEIGHBOR STARRING ROBINSONS AND NIKA SANTONINO.SAD DO MUCH WASTED ENERGY
On 7/8/2009 6:23:19 PM, Whatif? said:
Everything we have learned about this neighbor that is bad is from the barmaid. She decides what he is, what he does for a living, where he should live, whether at his present home or some other property of his, whether he should be living in the U.S.A. or on “his beautiful little island overlooking the ocean” (NICE!), when he should go to bed, when he should wake up, how he should behave, how he should dress, what he should be investing in, how he should provide free housing for the homeless, etc. etc. No wonder her former landlord evicted her and her man back in 2005, where they still owe her almost $20,000. She tried to get her neighbor arrested, dragged him through the courts to punish his desire to live in his home and continues to lie on him. She even lied that her employee was pushed on 5-18-09, the same day she, the neighbors and the employee were in court when the judge dismissed her LYING INJUNCTION! She now fires this poor, hardworking and dedicated employee whom she referred to in Court as her “Chief of Security” and in her blogs as her “valet” and then blamed him being fired on the Robinsons so that the guy would be scared to go even near her business again. Did she fire him because he did not support her lies when he went to Court and gave evidence in the injunction hearing, telling the judge he “did not see Mr. Robinson do or say anything to Nika”? Or did she fire him because of some racial cause? Now the poor guy cannot collect unemployment benefits because she did not pay into the program for him. She did not even give the guy “severance pay”. MEAN, EVIL AND WICKED? YES. She does not even know the meaning of the word “sub-contractors”. If her bartenders and other employees are “sub-contractors”, then which company hires them and sub-contracts them out to her and her business? Are they paying Unemployment Insurance or Workers Compensation for these employees? Whoever the employer is, someone has got to pay for those things on behalf of their employees. It’s the LAW! These employees are not their own contractors. To the employees, I say to you: Don’t let this woman trick you with her words. She is very good at that as you all know. If you are working with her for four years, as she claims, even if you are family members, then she should be paying into Unemployment, Workers Comp. and also Social Security on your behalf so you can receive benefits when she fires you. Workers Comp. would cover you if you get hurt on the job and not able to work. Speaking of “defamation”: Have you read all the blogs and realize the various lawsuits that your friend Nika is subject to because she personally has defamed the Robinsons from the very beginning when she went to the Orlando Weekly with her false story and have them publish various lies about them, plus all the things she personally wrote on her Dungeon Website, which were so malicious and incriminating that My Space decided that what she and her supporters were doing was cyberbullying, threatening and defaming the Robinsons? She has also stated several things in her blogs in the Orlando Weekly that are also defamatory and malicious. She pulled the FALSE INJUNCTION on the gentleman. She also campaigned, organized and encouraged several people in writing on her Dungeon Website and elsewhere to harass and intimidate the Robinsons, to violate their privacy, Civil Rights and Constitutional rights by continuously, over a period of several months, videotaping and photographing them, their dogs, home, etc., made a video of it and then posted it on the Internet. They tried to LEGITIMIZE THEIR LIES against the Robinsons by sacrificing “SNOWFLAKE, who has since MELTED AWAY, to also tell LIES on Mr. Robinson, which he did. SNOWFLAKE calls Nika his “Mom”. (A real joke). If that is not complete DRAMA, I don’t know what is. What better evidence does one need for several lawsuits against Nika, her videographers, camera crew, employees and others? She seeks public support because she likes to point out that she is white, as if that gives her more rights than other Americans such as the Robinsons. On 5-18-09 at 9:48 p.m., the same evening after she lost the injunction, she went on her usual tirade and emailed a female judge complaining to her about the trial judge (a male) and the decision he made to dismiss the Injunction, stating: “I feel as a woman that I’m being pushed aside that my life has no importance at all.“ Isn’t she accusing the male judge also of being a racist? She complained to the Court about not being able to go even near her business or her home and stated that she is “in hiding out of fear of this man,” yet she walks by his fence almost daily and at nights when her bands are around, shouting out to him: “Neighbor, Neighbor, come out and talk to me. I’m your fucking neighbor, so come out and talk to me.” Another occasion, she called out to him, saying, “Big Boy, Big Boy, why don’t you come out and talk to me?” This suggests that she is looking a fight with the neighbor. What a disgusting and LOW LIFE CREEP!! She also sits across from his gate various nights staring at him and his wife and taking photos of them and their dogs. Yet she can’t show a photo of him naked! Or did she post that on the Internet too? Did she really miss such a wonderful opportunity when she always has her expensive camera hanging from her shoulder or neck? She also claims to have surveillance cameras at her business, but yet she has no evidence of him doing anything wrong or evidence of him being naked. The only hide Nika is hiding is from JUDGE JUDY and the Sheriff who is now looking for her to serve her with Court Papers. She called the Building Department and Code Enforcement complaining that he did not get a permit for his carport. They came out and found that she was talking rubbish, as she always does. She now blogs on this site complaining about his blue tarp, his signs, his yard and everything. She also complained to Zoning and various other government departments and organizations about him living on his “Commercial Property, illegally.” Wouldn’t the world agree with me that this woman has certainly gone off the deep end? She calls herself a “metal mom”. Her brain must be made out of metal. No wonder she still hasn’t learned anything from her lies and negative behavior or through all the blogs, although her evil and bad attitudes are killing her business! She is an imbecile, crazy, extremely confused and a bad influence on the Lockhart community and society in general. She is also an evil, wicked, lying, no-good-excuse-of-a-woman and an embarrassment to the entire human race, but especially women. She is a BIG BULLY who runs to every authority she can and complains about everyone when she does not get her “VIGILANTE JUSTICE” against the Robinsons, the Sheriff’s Officers and now the Trial Judge. Then she curses everybody in Lockhart when they do not agree with her or anything she writes in her blogs. It has always got to be HER WAY or NO WAY! Nika has officially classified herself as “The Racist”. Congrats, Nika! Go have your block party. Go waste your time and resources. The bands and their followers would be stupid to waste anymore time and resources on you! The neighbor is right when he wrote on his sign: “Nika’s been lying, the Dungeon’s been dying”. Nika’s time for remorse is about done, not even her patrons want to be around her so most of them are gone elsewhere. There is a resident who attended her bar two weeks ago and got his denture knocked out by one of her drunk militia patrons. This poor man spent the next two days by the Junkyard looking for his denture and could not find it. He is still extremely upset over losing his denture. The least Nika should do for this poor gentleman is to pay to have his denture replaced since he got beatened up on HER PROPERTY, as she loves to point out. He could easily sue her if he wants for not only his denture but much more! Let her continue to destroy herself without bringing Lockhart, its residents and other business owners down with her. The last two suggestions I have for her is that she should go back to school and try to get an education and improve on her grammar, writing, spelling and basic English language. Nika, don’t use words that don’t even exist in the dictionary, like “ciao” and “sybil”, and please, try to read things over and make sure they make sense before you put them on the blogs and embarrass yourself even more. And this “already” slang that you love to use at the end of many of your sentences, like “Get over it already” “Just try to stop it already” “Lay off already” “Give it a rest already” “Stop with all this nonsense already” “Get your story straight already” “Get a life and hide in a box already” “Just stop it already” “Take a laxative already”, “Get a life already” “So give up already”, where did you learn to talk like that? Because Floridians and other Americans that I know, or intelligent, educated people do not speak like that and it’s a dead give-away that it’s you who write those blogs. You just can’t hide or disguise yourself! One last thing: You should seek forgiveness from God first before having your preacher friend seek forgiveness on your behalf. It’s you who should ask God and your neighbor for forgiveness and not him pleading as your intermediary. He can’t go to hell or heaven or face “your judgment” on your behalf. You will be the one to have to answer to God and face God’s judgment. One way to do this is: After the Preacher himself has apologized to the neighbor publicly, using this forum, for accusing the neighbor of being a racist and calling her music the “devil’s music,” which he did not, and also the Preacher being partial in his advice when he only addressed and quoted Bible verses to the neighbor and not you, he should meet with you privately, not at your bar and not under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol, and discuss the heavy burden of all the lies and hate you have in your heart, not just for the neighbors, but for all residents and business owners in the Lockhart community that you have been cursing on your blogs, then go to church with you, lead you to the alter before God after you have become contrite and humble, then bow down on your knees at the alter, confess all your sins before God and man and ask for God’s forgiveness…not the neighbors’. After you have genuinely made it right with God and have HIM cleanse your evil soul, you should stop your evil deeds, then go to the Robinsons, admit your wrongs and evil ways, and then beg the Robinsons for forgiveness. Having said all that, you do not need any further attention on this or any other website. To Lockhart residents and business owners: Let us all bid her “HAPPY RIDDANCE” and wish her well.
On 7/9/2009 12:39:39 AM, Anonymous said:
Altar is the correct spelling in case you were concerned about your own spelling
On 7/9/2009 5:48:43 AM, Anonymous said:
On 2-24-2006 Vincent Robinson was charged and placed in jail you might want to check that one out. Also on 7-4-2009 a male person walking down the street was followed by Vincent into the local store and was attacked by him you might want to check that. How much money does it take for the Robinson's to pay each and every person off to get away with murder. I know for a fact that the Robinson's have called on several of the homes in the area, But just keep on talking over and over about the same thing how childlike is this? People like you are sue happy the Robinson's have sued over 12 people so tell me who is on a power trip?
The electrician you are speaking of was hit in the mouth by Vincent, and that came from the the man himself that just happened last week on his property.
Panhandling charges,assualt charges,hate crimes,landlord/tenant cases,traffic violations,the list goes on and on. Robinson's put a check on your verbal insults towards others because the truth will all come out in time. How much time are you going to invest in this drama.
On 7/9/2009 6:07:26 AM, Anonymous said:
SO GLAD SOMEBODY FOUND ONE MISTAKE ON THIS PERFECT PERSONS GRAMMER! THE HOLY ROLLER NOW THE SPECIAL FLORIDIAN "HAPPY RIDDANCE TO YOU" PRACTICE WHAT YOU SPEAK! SHE SHOULD REALLY MOVE BACK TO HER STATE!
On 7/9/2009 8:07:00 AM, Anonymous said:
I THINK FOR ALL THIS PASSION Y ALL HAVE A SECRET CRUSH ON EACH OTHER!WHY DONT YALL JUST HAVE SOME FUN AND TAKE OFF ALL YOUR CLOTHES AND CHASE EACH OTHER THRU THE WILD WOODS
On 7/9/2009 10:13:59 AM, Anonymous said:
YOU CRAZY, IGNORANT, RETARDED LIAR, IMBECILE AND CRIMINAL!! THERE IS A VINCENT ROBINSON ON THE COUNTY RECORD WHO HAS A CRIMINAL RECORD, WAS BORN IN 1962 AND WHOSE MIDDLE NAME STARTS WITH AN "R" AND WHICH THE RECORD SHOWS HAS A DIFFERENT SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. THAT PERSON'S PHOTO IS ALSO IN THE COUNTY FILES. YOU KNOW OF A FACT IT'S NOT THIS VINCENT ROBINSON, YOUR NEIGHBOR, BUT YOU JUST WANT TO CONTINUE DISPARAGING THIS MAN'S CHARACTER AND REPUTATION BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS BY NOW THAT YOU ARE A LAW BREAKER, A CRIMINAL, A VILE, EVIL LOW DOWN SNAKE WHO HAS NO RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLE AND WHO HATES YOUR NEIGHBORS. THERE ARE AT LEAST FOUR VINCENT ROBINSONS LIVING IN ORANGE COUNTY. ONE OF THEM IS A REAL ESTATE BROKER. SO THE RUMORS AND LIES YOU ARE TRYING TO SPREAD ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBOR, YOU SHOULD GO TO PRISON FOR THAT. YOU ALSO SAID THIS PERSON HAS A WARRANT OUT FOR HIS ARREST IN NEW YORK. YOUR NEIGHBOR HAS NEVER LIVED IN NEW YORK, HAS NEVER BEEN ARRESTED, CHARGED OR BEEN TO JAIL OR PRISON NEITHER IN THE U.S.A. OR ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD….UNLIKE YOU!! YOU STUPID ASSHOLE, IF THAT WERE THE CASE, ALL THE TIMES THE POLICE HAVE BEEN INSIDE HIS YARD AND HIS HOUSE, WHEN HE APPEARED BEFORE THE COURT TWICE FOR THE INJUNCTION HEARING, WHEN HE FILED ALL THOSE EVICTION CASES YOU SPOKE OF, WHEN YOU CLAIM THE POLICE ISSUED HIM WITH TICKET VIOLATIONS, ETC., WOULDN'T THE POLICE HAVE ARRESTED HIM BY NOW? ALSO YOU CLAIM YOU LET THE POLICE KNOW ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS, SO WHY HASN’T THE POLICE ARRESTED HIM? PEOPLE WHO HAVE WARRANTS OUTSTANDING, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHERE THEY LIVE IN THE U.S.A., THE ENTIRE POLICE FORCE, FBI AND SO FORTH HAVE INSTANT ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION VIA THE INTERNET AND OTHER POLICE INTRANETS AND HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED A LONG TIME AGO. SO YOU CONSTANTLY WRITING THESE FALSE ALLEGATIONS IN YOUR BLOGS THAT HE HAS THREE WARRANTS OUT FOR HIS ARRREST, ONE IN NEW YORK AND TWO IN ORANGE COUNTY AND NOW THESE FRESH ALLEGATIONS YOU ARE MAKING ONLY MAKE YOU LOOK MORE AND MORE STUPID AND ARE GOING TO LEAD YOU TO PRISON BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE THESE AND YOU CAN’T BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST LIES. YOU ALSO CLAIMED YOU TURNED OVER ALL THE BLOGS TO THE POLICE, SO IF THEY DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT “YOUR SO-CALLED WARRANTS” THEY CERTAINLY HEARD IT FROM YOU. YOU BELIEVE THE ENTIRE POLICE FORCE AND OTHER READERS OF THESE BLOGS ARE IDIOTS AND ARE AS STUPID AND RETARDED AS YOU? GO VOMIT OUT THE VENOM YOU HAVE INSIDE OF YOU AND SUCK IT BACK UP LIKE THE DOG YOU ARE! AND TELL YOUR HUSBAND AND THE FEW DRUNKS/EMPLOYEES THAT YOU HAVE LEFT OF YOUR DYING BAR WHO HAVE BEEN MEDDLING IN THE NEIGHBORS' BUSINESS BY COMING OVER TO HIS GATE WHEN HE AND HIS WIFE ARE TALKING TO THE OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO YOU ALL HAVE CALLED CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ANIMAL CONTROL ON OVER THE YEARS AND UP TO YESTERDAY, TO STAY OVER YOUR BAR AND TO STAY ON THE DRUGS AND ALCOHOL THEY HAVE BEEN CONSUMING AND NOT TO COME ON THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY OR AT HIS GATE OR FENCE TO LISTEN TO THE NEIGHBORS' PRIVATE CONVERSATION WITH THEIR OTHER NEIGHBORS OR INTEFERE WITH THEIR DOGS. WE KNOW THEY DID THAT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT THOSE NEIGHBORS TO FIND OUT WHO HAS BEEN CALLING ANIMAL CONTROL AND CODE ENFORCEMENT ON THEM. BUT THEY FOUND OUT A FEW MONTHS NOW THAT IT WAS YOU, YOUR HUSBAND AND EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN CALLING THESE AUTHORITIES ON THEM AND NOT THE ROBINSONS. THEY CAUGHT YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND TAKING PHOTOS OF THEIR SHEDS, DOGS AND OTHER THINGS ON THEIR PROPERTY ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AND THEN THE AUTHORITIES WOULD COME BY SHORTLY AFTER YOU TAKE THESE PHOTOS. THE SAME THINGS YOU DO TO THE ROBINSONS. SO DON'T THINK YOU CAN BULLSHIT ANYBODY BY CONTINUING TO BLAME THE ROBINSONS FOR DOING THESE ACTIONS OF YOURS! ONE OF YOUR DRUNKARDS (THE ONE WITH THE BROWN DOG) TOLD THE NEIGHBORS THAT THE REASON HE CAME BY IS BECAUSE THOSE NEIGHBORS WERE WHITE AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE TALKING TO THEIR BLACK NEIGHBORS. YOU HAVE ALSO BEEN ACCUSING THE ROBINSONS OF VERBALLY AND PHYSICALLY ATTACKING OTHER PEOPLE, FIRST YOUR EMPLOYEES AND NOW A "MALE PERSON WALKING DOWN THE STREET"...ANOTHER OF YOUR CRAZY IMAGINATIONS!! I WONDER WHICH OF YOUR SEVERAL PERSONALITIES SAW THESE THINGS HAPPEN!! IF YOUR VILE ALLEGATIONS ARE TRUE, WHY DIDN’T THESE PERSONS REPORT THESE INCIDENTS TO THE POLICE WHEN THEY HAPPENED AND PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE AND THE WITNESSES? YOU THINK SPREADING LIES LIKE THESE ON THE ROBINSONS WILL MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE THEM AND HIDE ALL THE EVILS AND CRIMINAL ACTS YOU ARE GUILTY OF? YOU SHOULD GO BACK TO YOUR “BIG APPLE” WHERE YOU CAN GET LOST ONCE AGAIN. MAYBE YOU ARE THE ONE WHO HAS WARRANTS OUT FOR YOUR ARREST IN NEW YORK AND THEN RAN AWAY TO FLORIDA, YOU EVIL MORON!!
On 7/9/2009 11:12:40 AM, Lamar said:
How is it possible that in 2009 there are people who still don't know that you DO NOT type in all capital letters when posting?
On 7/9/2009 11:55:00 AM, Anonymous said:
WHY ARE YOU FANTASIZING ABOUT SEEING MR ROBINSON NAKED!IS IT YOUR SECRET DESIRE?WHY ALL THIS IS GOING ON,WARNING!PUT SOMETHING IN YOUR MOUTH DURING LOVE MAKING YOU MAY CALL YOUR HUSBAND VINCENT.WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HEAR NEXT IN THIS FANTASY DRAMA
On 7/9/2009 12:07:09 PM, Whatif? said:
MR. LAWYER LAMAR: WHEN YOUR STUPID, IMBECILE MORAN FRIEND NIKA FIRST STARTED WRITING IN ALL CAPS, WHY DID YOU NOT POINT THAT OUT AND ADVISE HER NOT TO DO THAT? THE OTHER BLOGGERS ARE ONLY FOLLOWING SUIT. WHY ALL HER FRIENDS ONLY HAVE HAVE ADVICE FOR OTHERS BUT NOT THE WITCH BITCH?
On 7/9/2009 12:25:00 PM, Anonymous said:
I LOVE LAMP!
On 7/9/2009 1:08:01 PM, Lamar said:
I do not know "Nika" "the barmaid" or anybody else at The Dungeon. Now type like a grown-up.
On 7/9/2009 1:58:10 PM, Anonymous said:
MR ROBINSON AND MISS SANTONINO DO YOU BOTH REALISE THAT YOU HAVE PAINTED YOURSELVES INTO A CORNER.IF SOME HOT HEAD CHOSE TO DAMAGE EITHER OF YOU PROPERTY YOU WILL BE PRIME SUSPECT AND IT MAY COST YOU ALL THAT YOU WORKED HARD FOR JUST TO PROVE YOUR INNOCENCE.BOTH OF YOU NEED TO TALK THE ATTORNEYS WHO WORK FOR THE INNOCENT PROJECT AND LEARN HOW MANY INNOCENT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WRONGLY CONVICTED."GROW UP"
On 7/9/2009 2:46:19 PM, Lamar said:
Let me try a different angle: Nobody reads posts that are typed in all caps.
On 7/9/2009 4:07:05 PM, Anonymous said:
Let there be peace on earth
And let it begin with me.
Let there be peace on earth
The peace that was meant to be.
With god as our father
Brothers all are we.
Let me walk with my brother
In perfect harmony.
Let peace begin with me
Let this be the moment now.
With every step i take
Let this be my solemn vow.
To take each moment
And live each moment
With peace eternally.
Let there be peace on earth,
And let it begin with me.
Let there be peace on earth
And let it begin with me.
Let there be peace on earth
The peace that was meant to be.
With god as our father
Brothers all are we.
Let me walk with my brother
In perfect harmony.
Let peace begin with me
Let this be the moment now.
With every step I take
Let this be my solemn vow.
To take each moment
And live each moment
In peace eternally.
Let there be peace on earth
And let it begin with me.
On 7/9/2009 4:25:29 PM, Anonymous said:
MR ROBINSON, MISS SONTONINO THIS HAS GONE FAR ENOUGH PLEASE COME TO YOUR SENSES. A GOOD FRIEND WILL TELL YOU THE TRUTH AND NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR.ANYONE WHO ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE THIS NONSENSE DOES NOT MEAN YOU ANY GOOD OR THEY ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID AND THE BOTH OF Y OU HAVE SACRIFICED ,WORKED HARD TO GET WHERE YOU ARE TODAY SO TAKE A DEEP BREATH COUNT TO TEN AND TELL ALL THE WARMONGERING IDIOTS WHO ARE INFLAMING THIS SOLVABLE MISUNDERSTANDING TO PISS OFF THEY MAY BE JEALOUS OF YOUR SUCCESS AND SECRETLY WANT TO SEE YOU LOSE IT ALL BY PRETENDING TO BE YOUR FRIENTD, PEACE TO YOU ALL S T A T H S
On 7/9/2009 5:28:00 PM, Lamar said:
I know it's been close to three whole hours, but people STILL don't read posts typed in all caps. It's not looking good for tomorrow either.
On 7/9/2009 5:51:57 PM, Anonymous said:
all caps rock
On 7/9/2009 10:13:09 PM, Anonymous said:
Nika dear, you are spending too much time on Mr. Robinson, you better watch your hobbies wandering eyes. Friend.
On 7/9/2009 10:31:47 PM, Anonymous said:
Until the philosophy which hold one race superior and another inferior, Is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned Everywhere is war. That until there are no longer first class and second class citizens of any nation. Until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes. Until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all, without regard to race. That until that day the dream of lasting peace, will remain in but a fleeting illusion To be pursued, but never attained Now everywhere is war. And until that day, we will fight. We find it necessary and we know we shall win, as we are confident in the victory, of good over evil.
On 7/10/2009 6:03:45 AM, Anonymous said:
What a nasty person you truly are check these files out! A list of all the people the Robinson's took to court even for a $100.00.
Troutmans,Blocker,Dupuis,Gonzales,Corval,Williams,Loel,Gaskin,Barnes,Lopez,Shorter. Wells Fargo and Bank of America is now taking them to court. You like to place other people personel information out there well here some for you, And no I'm not the barmaid so stop with all this nonsense already. Funny how I drove to the area lastnight and I saw no signs at all posted up at the bars, But when I looked across the street I found several signs posted up on a chain link fence that belongs to the Robinson's why is that? Why don't you just stop this and try to live your life normal and peaceful life is to short to be so hateful.
On 7/10/2009 6:32:48 AM, Anonymous said:
I work for the Dungeon and love it, Do I like when I have to view the nasty signs from across the street? No and do I like when we are being stalked by this man and his wife? No to the person who keeps on writing over and over on this blog It only appears to me that you are trying to cover up your nasty habits. I have heard and saw everything you have done for the past 2 months, Please do not try to attack me with your nasty remarks or lies. I have been working when some of your friends that you send over to the bar to spy. Why are you doing that? If you dislike the music or the bar that is one thing but for you to have this constant anger towards everyone that comes to the bar that is a problem that needs to be looked into. I have watched my boss leave and just walk away while you spoke to a out of town band this is what you said to him " I want to know what time you go on" he replied back to you not sure why? You replied nothing to do with you but I need to take this place down! Now you can talk all you would like but I know what I heard and this demon you have inside of you is not right please seek some help! To all the readers out there do not get so absorbed into the hateful remarks not only does my boss have to deal with this crazy insane garbage, but the staff does too. nobody understands why this person is doing this and we will never know. The one thing that should not happen on this site is trying to ruin the names of people for your own battle. The funny thing is that my boss really does not care she just walks away after viewing the nonsense that is posted about her and her husband. So please stop acting like your doing nothing at all you keep on pushing your way into our lives we all want to continue on working and continue on enjoying our family and our friends. Pretty simple just stay at your end of the property and we will stay on our end! I thought this battle was about you not sleeping because of music? Now It's about trying to ruin a persons reputation! Ok enough said by me do not want to be the next target I hope I spelled everything right for the english pro.
On 7/10/2009 10:44:59 AM, Anonymous said:
The mad dog is out on the prowl again, readers. Watch out! She may attack you next! Her identity or M.O.: "stop with all this nonsense already." She can run but she just can't hide. She's got to love her own Dungeon. Her employee did not write the last blog. She did.
On 7/10/2009 1:50:37 PM, Anonymous said:
Apparently these people at the bar can’t take a dose of their own medicine. You messed with the wrong neighbors and think because you want to take up your marbles and run, your smell won’t follow you. Grow up; this is a lesson you should never forget. Don’t tease the bear. Don’t steal a cop’s donut. Don’t piss in the wind and don’t think you can drive people from their home without consequences. You have offended the whole Lockhart community, driving around and taking pictures of their home then reporting these people to code enforcement and animal control. You don’t want to live among decent people. You want to control people. It may be worth your while to just apologize to your good neighbor and or just find another Dungeon Headquarters. I hear rent is cheap everywhere. You can take your nosey BBQ man with you. His record is not looking good either.
On 7/10/2009 3:22:51 PM, Anonymous said:
KEEP SUEING HIM NIKA, THEN SUE HIM IN CIVIL FOR LOSS OF BUSINESS!! THAT HOUSE HE IS IN WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL WHEN HE BOUGHT IT . EVEN IF IT WAS GRANFATHERED IN THAT IT WAS RESIDENTIAL, ONCE IT CHANGES HANDS FROM THE ORIGINAL OWNER THE GRANFATHER CLAUSE IS LOST.ALSO HAVE HIM ARRESTED FOR TRESPASSING, AND TAMPERING WITH YOUR UTILITIES. YA KNOW IF HE TAMPRES WITH YOUR MAILBOX THATS A FEDERAL CHARGE...KEEP GOING PUT IT TO HIM ..THIS GUY IS A JERK...SOMEONE SHOULD BURN HIS HOUSE TO THE GROUND.....HOW DOES THAT SOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!JACKASS...
On 7/10/2009 6:05:11 PM, Anonymous said:
Another raging mad dog! This one must be a pup from one of Nika's litters. These dogs have to be from one of two breeds: A Pit Bull or a Rottweiller. From what I know of Nika, I believe she is from the Pit Bull family. And by the way, the previous blog by NIKA'S PUPPY will be turned over to the police for investigation. That's a threat and it's criminal. So watch out, Puppy. Your friend will also be investigated.
On 7/12/2009 3:22:17 PM, Anonymous said:
This is the real barmaid and this is the truth! Everyone out here please stay away from these people on the internet they have nothing better to do but attack me as well as my husband. This is not normal day in and day out we have to look at signs we have to hear them screaming at us or attacking anyone who walks down the street. We have all reports made on these 2 for stalking and for hate crimes. I have not lowered myself to writing on this blog I will not use this blog to insult or trash anyone my main thing right now is to stay clear of the insane people who made the choice to attack my every move. This is not about anyone this is not about the music anymore this is a solo attack on my life by 2 people I do not know. They can continue on this site and try to ruin my family what they will gain is nothing but making themself appear to be the winner! I did not realize that my life was the main target anyone who will agree with taking someones life away from them is just as sick. Unless you have witnessed what these 2 people have done to me do not judge me. The Dungeon is not going anywhere It will continue on staying right here, I will not be forced out of the area because of 2 people who have nothing better to do then fight. I will not be accused of doing anything but I will tell all of you, Yes I will be taking them to court I will continue on fighting for my rights and in time this will all end. So the world can hear I do not do drugs I do not drink I do not like when the Robinson's use this system to tear my family apart or to say hateful remarks about everyone. Funny how this all started think about it first they said it was about the sound, so what does any of this other trash talking have to do about the sound? You stay up for hours attacking me for what reason? The people need to understand that I can not plant a flower or walk to my car without them saying something about me or stalking my every move Enough is Enough let it go already. My husband has no intentions of viewing your nasty sexual remarks we are not interested in any fantasy that you have we are fun loving people who just so happen to like music. Maybe you should try to listen and be happy instead of being so miserable.The same remarks that are on this site are same remarks that are posted on the fence sign after sign, like I said many times FOR WHAT? Be responsible for your own actions just be happy and get over it already. I know people in this area for a longtime and yes I have respect for them and no I have not called up on anyone. It's very sad that a young man who was kicked out of his home with his dogs ended up in my parking lot did I call up on him no did I take care of him and his dogs yes did I cry yes because I felt terrible for him. I'm not this terrible person that you claim. As far as my hobbies I like to run and swim did not know that was a crime. Leave me alone already! Stop following me stop sending your friends into my bar taking pictures of me JUST STOP IT!!!!!!! This is the only time I will post something other than this enjoy yourself with the trash talking on here about us I will not subject myself to the cruel remarks people who know me know the truth, have fun ruining a family you should be ashamed of yourself. There is more rewards in life when you do good things and surround yourself with good people I feel sorry for them because they missed out on knowing 2 good people who would have supported them and welcomed then into the community It takes more energy to be hateful and that is there choice not mine. Peace to you neighbors and stop making up laws to suit yourself! If anyone is tearing down Lockhart It's the people who keep on feeding off the negative remarks leave Lockhart alone I have never had any problems here and have been proud to be here for many years, until now but we all know why and who. So on that note I'm out of this loop of anger and hate! The Barmaid!
On 7/12/2009 10:06:06 PM, Anonymous said:
Pitbulls and Rottwielers would BE SOOOOO proud to have you compare Nika and her patrons to them, pitbulls especially. They are the sweetest dogs in the world if trained and homed appropriately. This is to you JANNETH ROBINSON I frequent the Dungeon and AM A PROUD FEMALE METAL HEAD and have realized its you writing all these hateful things about Nika and WOW the similarities in your vulgar INAPPROPRIATE signage is so easy to compare and figure out. You really need to have your husband BOINK you a little more often and leave the Dungeon alone, and by the way your noise is getting to be a REAL CROWD DRAW here lately. HOWD YOU LIKE OUR SINGING WITH IT LAST NIGHT? If you're up for it LETS RECORD, we could throw some beats in there and make an album Remixed By the Evil Busby Rd Crew.
I hope you read this and you turn red with anger. I also interpret your hate for everyone ELSE in the whole world except for the occupants in your lil world quite comical.
You entertain the patrons at the Dungeon with your childish tries at annoyance. You go girl,enjoy yourself.
On 7/20/2009 4:53:43 PM, Whatif? said:
Hi, Ms. Barmaid, the neighbor is now convinced that you and your associates, especially those hanging around your bar, are now contemplating MURDER of the Robinsons. On Saturday morning, 7/18/09 at approximately 1:15 a.m., while your neighbor was in his yard tending to his signs, one of your drinkers and supporters left his discussion pack on your premises and came to the neighbor’s fence. He said he was from New York where you are from and that he was an ironworker, working all over Florida, especially in Miami. He said to the neighbor, “ I can’t believe they let you live” as he spoke of the bar owner disagreeing with the neighbor residing in his home. When asked to repeat what he had said, he again said, “I can’t believe they let you live, this would never happen in New York.” Last night, Saturday, July 19, two men accompanied you to your neighbor’s fence, one was a tall semi-muscular man driving a pickup with a female inside. The other male answering to the name Luciano, dismounted his bicycle, entered into the conversation and uttered threats of violence to your neighbor. Both men seem to be either members of your family or your very close friends. The man who drove the pickup, stepped out of his truck, called out Luciano’s name, then entered into the conversation with you and your neighbor. He had no intelligent thing to add. He just pointed at your neighbor and said, “You are dead,” then re-entered his pickup and drove off. Then Luciano rambled about the neighbor’s signs and issued threats for your neighbor to leave his home and come into the street so he could give him a whipping. Note, the said Luciano and two of his buddies passed the signs two weeks ago at about 12:10 p.m. laughing at them and saying they were ineffective. Apart from the fact that these men are on surveillance video, which is on its way to the Sheriff, they have now brought into the picture a pattern suggesting that a MURDER plot is being organized between you and them. Because you did not try to stop either of these men from issuing their threats or utter any disapproval or disagreement, this suggests that you are a major part of this MURDER PLOT. I will remind you that you are making your bar a crime scene and is doing everything in your power to put yourself out of business and put yourself and all your patrons in jail or worse. You, I am sure, are wrongly concluding that this neighbor is alone and has no one to come to his aid. I am sure it is taking every ounce of persuasion possible from him to keep his family and friends away from this melee. Try to look beyond where you can see, and you will see the danger that’s out there. You keep speaking of some guy who you claimed beat you up and wreck your face. Go find this guy. Your neighbor has nothing to do with this. I am sure you have created a lot of enemies in your past. Don’t use your neighbor as an excuse to cover for your demise. Whoever you claimed went into your bar searching for you, address that! Your neighbor didn’t send anyone there. You keep blogging and blabbering so much he doesn’t have to see you to know about you. The problem you have is not with your neighbor, it is with Orange County Zoning. They screwed up and instead of fixing the problem they are pretending to be dumb while they send two neighbors to do battle with each other and shred each other to pieces. They have stacked the deck against you. They broke their own rules and allow you to expand your business over into the shed behind your bar. If you want to sue someone, Zoning is a great candidate! If you need help, speak with your neighbor in a civilized way; he has more information on this than you have or could find. Both of you might be able to sue Zoning together. As far as your neighbor is concerned, he is not moving. This is his little shack in the bush. Zoning, Code Enforcement, Building and even the Courts know you will be the big loser. As has been said before, there are better places out there where rent is cheap, especially now, and your business will be out of the reach of complaining residents and will be able to grow. Why waste your resources here? I am sure it’s scarce. You taking out another injunction against your neighbors will not help you. You will have to falsify your claims again to do so and this time you may be arrested for PERJURY. The neighbors will still live in their home and your business will not be any better. Stop being so angry and focus on the root of your problem… Zoning. Let them pay for their mistakes and your woes.
On 7/21/2009 11:56:57 PM, Anonymous said:
I know those son of a bitch would try death threats next. They are like parasites, they will try to suck the life out of you just to end up killing themselves.
On 7/22/2009 8:41:46 AM, Anonymous said:
Hay Bub, nothing new, they started as racist and they are still racist. Now they are planning to kill this guy. I told you this was where it was heading. Everyone in the community knows who they are. Just dumb shits from New York thinking they can take over our community. Lockhart has seen this bar closed before it can happen again.
On 7/22/2009 11:38:50 AM, Anonymous said:
The police needs to investigate Nika and her drug selling Junkyard bar. Imagine, they not only say but they write in this very paper that they want this neighbor to leave his house and give it to them, and then they want to burn this man’s house down. Now they want to kill him and his wife. What is next and who is next? Will it be my house and my family next or which other Lockhart resident? That bar operator and her murdering plotters should go to jail. What about this court case Nika is hiding from, is she above the law or just some hoodlum pushing her way into this community? She needs to smarten up and go. We won’t take this behavior from her and her criminal friends and family. Everybody knows of her devilish deeds and plans. We are all watching.
On 7/22/2009 12:10:38 PM, Anonymous said:
If Vincent Robinson resides on Busby Avenue, what is he doing claiming homestead exemption on the Rex Hill Trail house? Isn't that tax fraud?
On 7/22/2009 12:59:03 PM, Anonymous said:
Nika, you just confirm once again that you are a dumbass, a retard and an uneducated fool. Obviously you don’t own a home or you would know that homestead does not get removed immediately after someone moves out of their home; it stays on until at least the end of the tax year. You need to do some courses that will help you to be more educated and informed. Orange County has several seminars from time to time and they are free. Try and attend some of them and learn something before you blabber off your mouth on this site with your garbage. The unfortunate thing is that no one can teach you COMMONSENSE because COMMONSENSE IS NOT COMMON! You have to acquire that over a long period of time by reading often and associating yourself with decent, intelligent and educated people such as your neighbors who you, your family and friends are planning to murder. All your lies and threats will only send you, your friends and associates to prison, so continue doing what you are doing, baby, you all just will be ruined, baby, because the authorities and everyone else are all watching.
On 7/22/2009 1:24:36 PM, Lamar said:
Anon @ 12:59 - You are correct that homestead tax exemptions are filed at the beginning of each year. So it is possible that Mr. Robinson lived at the Rex Hill house on January 1, 2009, then moved to the Busby Avenue house sometime thereafter (and hence, no "tax fraud"). According to the story (which is dated 4/30/09), the person moved into the Busby Avenue house "a couple of months ago". While this time frame suggests that Mr. Robinson most likely moved into the Busby Avenue house around February, it really isn't all that clear just from the story. Do you have a date certain that he moved to the new property? If not, then you are assuming facts favorable to your position just like the above comment assumed facts favorable to it. Since you are calling somebody a "dumbass, a retard and an uneducated fool" for the same thing you might be doing, then you might also be a dumbass, a retard and an uneducated fool. Of course, if you know the actual date he moved in, you should just say so. And you should also perhaps discuss how it is reasonable to move in across the street from a biker and metal bar then complain about the noise. You know, as long as we're on the topic of COMMON SENSE.
On 7/22/2009 3:45:07 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar, you sound like you know something about the law. My understanding is that you can't claim a homestead on a commercially zoned property, and that's what the story suggests.
On 7/22/2009 4:29:30 PM, Anonymous said:
Nika, I will give you an example of what fraud is: FRAUD is when someone takes their camera down to the courthouse, photographs their landlord’s signature and also the signature of the landlord’s husband and son off the court record because the landlord was evicting them for non-payment of rent for almost two years, then download the signatures, print them and paste them into an EXPIRED OFFER of purchase and sale of the landlord’s condo and then claim that the landlord, her husband and son sold them the condo. Now that’s not only FRAUD; that’s big time THEFT!! Whoever does such an EVIL thing should go to prison for a very long time. Wouldn’t you agree?
On 7/22/2009 5:15:31 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar you sound like a girly man do you sit down when you pee.when you go to the bath room to take a crap , do you first wipe your butt then take a crap and then pull up your pants?You have done a lot for nika,in return she should throw you a COMING OUT PARTY for free! LAMAR YOU ARE GAY!LAMAR IS GAY! LAMAR,WHAT WILL BE YOUR coming out name?I suggest LAURA, WE ARE ALL HAPPY FOR YOU! Lets have a big party for Laura wearing drag, yuo go gir!
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On 7/22/2009 5:18:55 PM, Lamar said:
Anon @ 3:45 - That's a good question. I don't see why you couldn't claim a homestead exemption if you legally live there regardless of the designation. Sometimes you can have waivers, variances or exceptions that could allow you to legally live at a property zoned commercial. Of course, your understanding could be completely correct. Sorry, not an expert, I'm just a simple country lawyer.
On 7/22/2009 5:28:54 PM, Lamar said:
Anon@5:15 - this is why we can't have nice things.
On 7/22/2009 11:58:25 PM, Whatif? said:
Lamar may not only be a girly man, he may also be a part of this murder conspiracy. Why does he keep changing the subject when serious allegations come up about the neighbors' wellbeing? Who hang a noose by the neighbor? Why is Nika and her associates plotting to commit murder on the neighbor? Why did Nika try and is still trying to put this man in jail with her lies? Is there a cover up by Lamar and the bar? The real questions always get shoved behind their smoke screens. The silence by Nika, the Junkyard bar, Lamar and its henchmen suggest that the truth was revealed in the blogs. Lockhart residents, we can safely say the community's Pontius Pilate together with its Judas are working and hanging out together at Nika's bar. Lamar claimed previously that he did not know Nika, but with him constantly defending her and giving her iffy legal advice and answering her questions suggest otherwise. Whatever his payment is, the eventual cost will take its toll on all those he tries to shelter. Justice can be blind and unspoken, but when it rises up to strike the villain no amount of drugs will soothe the pain. Remember when it rains, it does not fall on one man's roof. Lamar, please state your Florida Bar license number. There are idiots out there like your aforementioned client who may need your legal advice. I was told by a colleague many years ago that there were a few "Sexual Intellectuals" out there, but I thought that this was just a myth. Unfortunately, I have found one in you.
On 7/23/2009 12:36:12 AM, Lamar said:
The reason I have "changed the subject" whenever murder conspiracies and tax fraud issues are raised is because I am only interested in the property rights aspect of this kerfuffle. The threats, accusations, and personal animosity, quite frankly, sadden me regardless of what's true and what's BS. I would hope that these people (the owner of the bar and the adjacent property owner) could come to an amicable resolution of their dispute through private means. I've only given my political, non-legal opinion on this thread. And unfortunately, I am not certain that giving my bar number wouldn't violate lawyer advertising rules. I know that it might sound bizarre, but the FL bar's regulation of freedom of speech (i.e., advertising) isn't your average freedom of speech issue, and it's not one I'm willing to risk my career over. Of course, if "Nika" or the homeowner were my client, I wouldn't be bound by my caution of such rules. Nevertheless, I appreciate your irreverent brand of courtesy and respect in these matters. And just for the record, I would represent either party zealously if I were, in fact, involved in this dispute.
On 7/23/2009 10:59:13 AM, Whatif? said:
Please give your help to the barmaid. She is going loco and will soon have a mental break down. The man is legally on his property, She is legal on her property. Zoning screwed up and is allowing them both to fight. The neighbor is not vacating his property. She is a renter and has more options. If she doesn't leave she will suffer severe financial loss because of a lack of business. She loses every step of the way. She needs to major on the major, she started a fight she can’t win and won’t ever win. A resident and a club in such close proximity such as this will result in the club losing the battle if the resident refuse to give in. If you really want to see a peaceful settlement, maybe you can arrange to have them both meet with you as a mediator, who knows you may even get a client from this and increase your profits and notoriety. This could be a reason to have your coming-out party. I may even attend.
On 7/23/2009 2:58:59 PM, Anonymous said:
Vincent and Janneth we all know that It is the both of you on this site your minds are warped for sure. You are creating stories upon stories so that you will win this war, I think you should work for a sign company since you enjoy spending hours upon hours painting false remarks atleast you should make some money or maybe Vincent likes slavery because we all know that the both of you do not pay taxes but you claim to work everyday. As far as these threats what about the threats that Vincent said on Saturday night about taking Nika into the woods? You will both try your best to make other people feel sorry for you i think you watch to much television your lies will get the best of you. Not only are you making fun of all people but you both seam to have issues with whites,hispanics. Nobody wants to do anything to the both of you we are all laughing at the nonsense funny how you slander everyone on this site,Read back all that you write listen to your own words you make nasty remarks about Gay people you make nasty remarks about everyone including the police department. The only people that are on your side is your family members who you purchased property for on Journal your trying to push all the people out of the area so that the both of you can create The Robinson's mission we all know this is your way of not paying taxes scamming on this country and all the hard working people. Now If you want to start your trash talking about everyone lets air out your problems look at all the people you took advantage of on public record you have listed 15 people that you have taken to court. You have licensed contractors doing work for you because you do not have a license but then you refuse to pay for the work when finished. I feel you should stop with this horrible talk and stop making fun of people, But you can not make any sense of a sick minded couple that loves to cause harm to society. Do not flatter yourself with this lie about murder It's not true at all my advice to you is stay off the crack pipe and go seek help your mind is so filled with nonsense. The cameras are rolling on both sides of the fence everyone knows that, Why do you feel that you can get away with ruining a business with false remarks? Hopefully Lakeside will view all of this and take the both of you into the ward so that society can continue on feeling safe. Why do you feel that you can change a commercial setting just because the both of you moved in? Stop and think you are not concerned about the community you just wanting your own way and you feel that you can ruin a business without paying for it. It should be a crime when 2 adults talk about sexual and killing face the facts It's the Robinson's who are doing this everyone knows. If you look back on the last statement look at what time they said all this happened 1:15am funny they claim they have to work so early in the morning but they stay up all night long watching the Dungeon stalking every move on the owners the patrons, Even the police have witnessed all of what the Robinson's do. Maybe you should both go back to Tangerine or take one of many of your homes start picking on the residents in other communities that should be interesting. You both should realize that your signs that are posted are a disgrace to the public If anyone looks at your signs they will understand It is coming from a sick and hateful person, It can not be that county officials and all the public are wrong here! Stay in your home nobody really cares but do not try to force others out of a community because of the color of there skin or because they want to conduct business like normal. Seams as If the Dungeon is doing fine also noticed that they have placed a fence up so that appears to be they want to block off looking at the Robinson's, Also to protect the customers from Janneth and Vincent grabbing or hitting them. Janneth remember the evening of pushing and hitting the employee inside the bar there are photos of this as well as all the bands who witnessed this evening. Stop saying that you are both so perfect because you are very evil. I feel the local media should get involved to see the both of you perform with your racial slurs your sexual slurs and your evil plot to cause danger to all.Peaceful settlement, they do not know the meaning of the word peaceful they are out for one person they do not care about anything else to me that is a sick mind. Zoning did not make any mistakes you just tried to screw up everything to get your own way and it back fired on your plot.
On 7/23/2009 7:08:39 PM, Anonymous said:
She who knows not and knows not that she knows not, Shun her.
On 7/23/2009 7:09:52 PM, Anonymous said:
I want to be comment #150.
On 7/24/2009 1:00:05 AM, Anonymous said:
I am #151 and I live in Lockhart. That Nika, is really confused. She sounds mental.
On 7/24/2009 11:49:27 AM, Anonymous said:
The Robinsons live on a C-1 and a R-1. So what is the big deal? Orange County Zoning gave them that right. The Junkyard and Dungeon are on a C-3. Who stops Nika from living on it? Oh, I forgot – Orange County Zoning!! Sorry, Nika, your shit out of luck. “TWO TEARS IN A BUCKET AND FUCK IT.” Quoted from Nika’s Dungeon website.
On 7/24/2009 12:30:02 PM, Anonymous said:
Nika, on 7/9/2009 5:48:43 a.m., in these same blogs, you Nika wrote falsely: “On 2-24-2006 Vincent Robinson was charged and placed in jail you might want to check that one out.” You got a response that the Vincent Robinson with a criminal record was not your neighbor but another person. There is no record of your neighbor having a criminal record or has ever been charged, placed in jail, or has warrants outstanding for his arrest. Since you love to put “dirt and shit” on your website and in Orlando Weekly about the Robinsons and other residents and businesses in Lockhart, how would you like it if the criminal record of your husband , “P.D.A.” aka “P.J”, found in public records was revealed in these blogs? As you said in a previous blog, “Those who live in glass house shouldn’t throw stones.” Keep writing lies. The choice is yours!
On 7/24/2009 5:10:52 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar, Nika rides you like a rented mule.
On 7/24/2009 6:48:03 PM, Anonymous said:
LAURA(AKA LAMAR) dont you think it is time you come out of the closet?when you ask nika to host your COMING OUT PARTY,tell nika you want it to be a CRISCO OIL PARYY on the floor of the dungeon.and that would be a lot of fun.LAURA you inferred that you are a lawyer,if you were worth anything you would be busy working on cases and not hanging around the internet soliciting work.your psychological profile suggest that you are disbarred and someone should see if you are practicing without a licence
On 7/24/2009 7:26:26 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar is being played like an old piano by his girl Nika and he doesn't even know it.
On 7/24/2009 7:36:43 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar is disbarred. She ride him like a mule, he acts like a fool. He does Nika favors, she use him like toilet paper.
On 7/28/2009 4:31:23 AM, Anonymous said:
Now who is the child in this blog? You are talking such garbage It's not even funny anymore. Let's get back to the real subject do you think It's alright for the Robinson's to post false statements on poster boards not only has It increased by large numbers but they are also doing this against code. Do you think It's fair for 2 people to cause such drama only because they feel like it? Funny how you start talking about the barmaid but yet you always avoid one subject The Robinson's placed her in jail just because of sound not for anything else, Now you are all using this site to destroy people or make fun of people I ask what is your motive or target?
It only sounds like you have the problem you just won't allow people to speak without giving slang remarks this does not do anything for anyone.
On 7/28/2009 5:00:37 AM, Anonymous said:
For all the people that are writing into this site should realize what is going on here. The person Whatif is the Robinson's and If you would like to come over to the Dungeon one night that a show starts you will see and hear them in action. Do you honestly think that it is alright for the Robinson's to take this sort of action against everyone that comes and goes down Busby Avenue? On Saturday The Robinson's where outside screaming slang remarks to all why do they hide behind computers fences bushes? The reality is that they will be fined over and over for each sign that is placed on the fence line, It is only making the property look bad and also posting people who have nothing to do with this is wrong. You now are in your target mode to attack the barmaids husband as well as the rest of her family funny how you do not even have the names right but If you continue on with this the money and the court cases will increase. Using a minor childs name in your attacks of crime are sick. You must read back into these blogs you only name call trash talk and use horrible words to try to hurt the barmaid and her family as well as her employees, Funny how you call them mental It only appears that you have the Illness. Are you upset that the bar has no signs are you upset that everyone is ignoring your hateful remarks? Maybe this is why you have this outburst of hate on the computer. If anyone is paying anyone off It would be them. Funny how they are all related to a gang they have no regards to laws at all. A siren sound that blasts from 7 to 12 is against the law that has nothing to do with operating a business nor living in a home, all this does is cause a riot they are disturbing the peace of many as well as driving animals crazy, But I guess you support that I wonder why or how much you are getting paid off?
These people that claim to be nice and just want to live peacefully is a joke. No matter what lawyer or what judge would grant the barmaid in the clear the Robinson's will still continue on with this garbage. Funny how all of you have no idea what these people are doing how would you like to have listened to sexual remarks toward the barmaid, although they thought It was her but It was a family member need proof well that will come out at the court date end of August as well as a whole lot of other things so continue pushing the limits of the law. We can only hope that the Robinson's have a huge amount of money saved up so that they can pay for all the people that there names where posted up on this website as well as the signs remember civil rights you must read to be informed of how they have taken the rights away of all. Why is everyone ignoring the facts? Women have rights just as well as men and why is it that the Robinson's feel they are above the law above everyone in the community? I will be curious on how they get out of the code issues on the signs this should be a good one! I would love to hear the lies that they tell on that subject we all know that they play around with laws. They are the ones making an ass of themselves look at the big picture here.
On 7/28/2009 4:15:44 PM, Anonymous said:
Niiika, Niiika, the rambling retard, can you even understand what you write? Nobody can make sense of anything you write. You are so confused, you are clearly INSANE! When are you ever going to write the truth AND see a psychiatrist before you are beyond mental help? You state on these blogs that you and everyone else are laughing at the neighbor's signs, but they seem to bother you a great deal. You say his signs are very artistic, yet tacky. Is that why you and your people have been stealing them? Are you hugging his signs tight at nights to keep you warm, or are you using them to decorate your walls at home? You are the "name caller". I heard that some of those innocent people whose names you posted as "evictees" of your neighbor are already speaking to lawyers, and more court papers will be heading your way, so you can start hiding again from the court sheriff. Everybody knows what you are trying to do to your neighbors. Don't think they are alone. May the gods be with you...in your case LUCIFER!!
On 7/30/2009 4:47:53 AM, Anonymous said:
Well hello Lucifer! your back with your rambling words of the lies you have created. What's wrong the heat must be getting to you? All your signs of hatred all the hours and hours you spend on trying to ruin the family of the bar you should be ashamed of yourself. How funny is this you take public records and try your best to slander the names of people for your own self gain, then you start your name calling saying all of us our mental that is a true sign of a break down to me.
Nobody is stealing any signs maybe your just angry because your being told to remove them. As far as keeping warm maybe you are to bitter and lonely and the only thing you have is this computer. I feel really sorry for you, You are missing out on life funny how some people have class and some do not. I feel really bad for you because you are using this comment board to release your anger and In hopes of trying to cure you mental illness, you should try a 1 800 number for assistance. And we all know what you are trying to do to the bar across the street like what you did last night. Keep on Lucifer the truth will come out in time I think the late part of August. You should really stop hiding from the law It's going to catch up to you in time. Funny you write and write signs but yet in here you miss spell Nika! how classic.
On 8/3/2009 12:45:58 PM, Anonymous said:
Why don't this idiot go do her business elsewhere. I have been sleeping very well since the Robinsons moved in and started to put a stop to their noise nonsense. Orange County should be ashamed of themselves giving permits for an adult entertainment center so close to a residences. 15 feet, they are breaking their own rules.
On 8/3/2009 3:52:45 PM, Anonymous said:
Oh that is a good one you are only picking on one bar when you are surrounded by 4 funny how you do not know the laws. You are not suppose to live on a commercial property then bitch about it later. Do you all complain about the other bars? Or is it just the one? why is that? Why do you have to name call people you do not even know?
And by the way do you hear the loud noise from the tent by the albertsons shopping center or do you ignore those sounds. From your comment it only shows that you are involved with the Robinson's, Are you planning on leaving the adult entertainment on 441 alone?
On 8/3/2009 4:00:52 PM, Anonymous said:
Why are all of you above taking a simple zoning issue or a complaint of noise to this disgusting level? The bottom line is this I was at the place on saturday and heard with my own ears sexual remarks and also remarks on how he wants to take the barmaid into the woods and take care of her, I only hope that the barmaid gives all to her lawyer enough is enough already do you all think this is funny? As a woman and a band member I think this mans actions need to be addressed from what I heard It seams as If he would really hurt the barmaid. I also helped pick up trash and broken glass that was tossed all over. When is this going to stop and why would anyone allow somebody to take a simple noise complaint to the degree of killing.
purchase ear plugs that is a pretty simple way out don't you think?
On 8/3/2009 11:16:07 PM, Anonymous said:
Well "Miss blame the other bar", 1. Your bar is the only bar making noise especially until 2 a.m. 4 to 5 nights a week. 2. You talk and behave like a real piece of trash. 3. The church is over in time for residents to go to bed. 4. I have the right to come to my neighbors assistance when a dishonest person like you is attacking him. 4. An adult entertainment center should be at least 1,500 feet from a residence. You must have paid Orange County officials big money for them to give you this license. Maybe that is why you are still hanging around. You are too broke to leave and too dumb to see you are losing. 5. I took time to read these blogs from start to finish and you are the one telling lies on the Robinsons. From your very first words to this paper until now. You should be ashamed of yourself. You are no woman. I am not sure what kind of animal you are. To that other blogger after yours, the bar sells beer, not the Robinsons, so where these broken glass come from. I am not afraid of your bullying. I will blog on this site when I think I need to, so stop trying to frighten us. We know what you are. Your former employees were glad to spill the beans. You lied on the Robinsons and obviously you are still lying. I hope they put you in Jail. Good night.
On 8/4/2009 9:37:23 AM, Lamar said:
A bar and live music venue is not an "adult entertainment center" under the Orange County code. While there are certain distance requirements for a bar, they generally apply to proximity to churches, schools and adult entertainment businesses (i.e., nudie bars). Also, the code allows businesses that are already in existence to be "grandfathered" in, even if they change ownership. This means that a church that is built next to an already existing bar can't force the bar to move. As you are probably aware, there are a number of bars much closer than 1,500 feet to residential areas. Naturally, the bar still has to adhere to the county ordinance regarding noise. But this level of animosity between the parties suggests that there is more to this property dispute than noise.
On 8/4/2009 10:59:58 AM, Anonymous said:
Lamar you are disbarred. your opinion is worthless, go get a job at burger king or mac donalds stop hanging around the internet soliciting work.dont you know there is only a thin line between love and hate NIKA said she saw Mr.Robinson naked, and that is the root cause of the problem,which is LOOOOOVE.
On 8/4/2009 11:10:25 AM, Lamar said:
Disbarred? Well, at least you think I'm smart enough to have passed the bar in the first place. It's these small courtesies that keep me going.
On 8/4/2009 1:02:37 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar you are disbarred because the association found out that you cheated on your exam
On 8/4/2009 2:13:47 PM, Lamar said:
Which exam is that? The punctuation exam?
On 8/5/2009 10:42:50 AM, Lamar said:
Perhaps this is why this dispute has not moved towards any resolution. Instead of acknowledging that a county code and other laws exist that shape this dispute, you'd rather insult my honor, question my credibility and deny the validity of my opinion. Let me know how that works for ya.
On 8/5/2009 1:15:57 PM, Anonymous said:
lamar you are only adding fuel to this dispute with your biased opinions,so that you could get some work, and steal all that the robinsons and miss santonino owns this is not the place to solicit work.go to burger king or mac donalds,you are now a burger flipper
On 8/5/2009 1:27:25 PM, Lamar said:
Biased? The fact that "adult entertainment" ordinances apply to nudie bars and not regular bars makes me "biased"? And if I am disbarred, how can I also be soliciting work? Besides, the burgers at BK are not flipped.
On 8/5/2009 4:17:36 PM, Billman said:
Um, anon@1:15: "opinions" are BY NATURE "biased." Just saying. Also, I don't recall Lamar saying anything derogatory about your personally. Maybe you could extend the same consideration and we could keep this civil?
On 8/5/2009 11:55:16 PM, Anonymous said:
Um, anon@1:15 i was right lamar is no real attorney, he cant defend himself so you have come to his aid.and real attorneys are not so SENSITIVE,they roll with the punches,anyway i must thank you lamar for the information, i honestly did not know burgers at bk were not flipped.good research.So what is happening the Hatfields and MC COYS are very quiet lately,just us bored dimwits keeping the fire burning this dispute must be winding down.
On 8/6/2009 1:59:43 AM, Whatif? said:
Lamar and Billman: To bring you up to speed, Nika's so-called “bar” changed its license from a bar to an Adult Entertainment Center in September 2008, less than a year ago. “Junkyard Saloon LLC” became INACTIVE in April 2008. So Nikadena Santonino was operating her two businesses, the Junkyard Bar and the Dungeon Adult Entertainment Club, without a license between April 2008 and September 2008 when she changed from an LLC to her now fictitious name: “Junkyard Saloon” without the “LLC” (Check with DBPR and Orange County Zoning). The first change took place on January 24/08 when Ms. Santonino had her Beverage License extended with the approval of Orange County Zoning and granted by Alcoholic Beverage and Tobacco Licensing Bureau (ABT) from the Junkyard Bar at 6440 N.OBT to the second building, the Dungeon, at 5225 Busby Ave. This second change from a “Bar” to an “Adult Entertainment Center” was again approved by Orange County Zoning with no regard for the neighbors living 15 feet away and the hundreds of other residents living within the 1500 feet limit that Orange County Zoning laws say should be from Adult Entertainment Centers, which the Dungeon has been for a very long time, even before they were licensed to do so (A prime case for state prosecutors to bring charges against Nika and Orange County Departments). So when it comes to an Adult Entertainment Center, the laws are not only supposed to protect churches, schools and day care centers, it also applies to residents. Zoning in particular and Orange County Departments in general have created huge problems for all residents living within 1500 feet of this Adult Entertainment Club known as the Dungeon and especially the neighbors living 15 feet away. To see proof that this so-called bar has been operating as a “NUDIE BAR”, just access the link below. It’s a Nudist Video named “VAGITARIAN, GIVE IT TO THE WHORES” and was made right inside the Dungeon in February 2009. I would advise everybody to watch it now before Nika and her people have it removed. Just in case Nika gets it removed before you have had a chance to watch it, just ask and you will be redirected to other sites where it can be viewed:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=54986839
So another question to ask yourselves is: Why did Zoning and ABT approve one beverage license to cover two separate buildings at two totally separate addresses? As you Lamar should know (since you professed to know about property rights), this is illegal since each address should have its own beverage or liquor license. Yet Orange County Zoning approved this, and they, I am sure, will construct reasons to justify their own illegal action where they broke their own laws. Ask yourselves, how did Nika able to pull this stunt off and get away with it? She has broken the laws many, many times and then gets protected by Zoning and Code Enforcement. Her own blogs suggest she paid off of individuals within these departments to get what she wants and to act as her personal enforcement crew. These are just a few of the reasons why this Noisy Nudie Bar should be closed down. Nika has now resorted to death threats against her neighbor. Making up lies to get an injunction against her neighbor and lying to the Courts in writing and orally throughout the process got her nowhere. Now she is being sued by the neighbor for the legal expenses she forced him into. (Trial starts this month). This type of lawsuit is the second against her…a real testament to her dishonesty. She still owes her former landlord over $20,000 in rent, attorneys fees and court costs and trying to avoid paying it (See Clerk of Courts records). With her numerous unsuccessful false injunctions that she has so far pulled, it's time this evil woman be investigated and charged with perjury. Lamar, please tell the readers how this license change was done without zoning breaking its own laws and codes based on your so-called expertise within this area. Why did Kurt Faschnaut, Director of Code Enforcement, side with Nika and Billman when he gave an interview to the news media (Orlando Weekly) and Billman’s Article quoted him giving biased views against two other decent, innocent and prominent law-abiding citizens, THE NEIGHBORS, without even a cursory investigation? These views have been adopted and quoted by Nika and her supporters over and over again, including you Lamar and Billman. Constant repetition of lies and quoting from the very article given by the liar Nika herself does not make those repeated statements true. Why did Billman publish such a defamatory and incendiary article on the neighbors without hearing from the neighbors themselves? Even after one of the neighbors called Billman when he read this shocking article, Billman refused to respond up to this day. Billman went further to continue crucifying the neighbor again in a second article in May after Nika reported to him that she got off the “Noise Ordinance Violation Charge” and her TRUMPED UP INJUNCTION against the neighbor was thrown out by the courts. Why is Code Enforcement again siding with Nika and trying to silence the neighbor just because Nika asked them to, by threatening to take away his First Amendment Rights for a peaceful demonstration with his signs within his own private, fenced property by threatening to punish him with more violations as soon as they can dream them up, while they continue to ignore obvious violations at the Dungeon and Nika's other rented properties? If the need arises, a whole laundry list of code enforcement biases against the neighbor can be exposed. All this is public record. No law degree is needed to find it. Maybe Mr. Billman can take this matter up on his next assignment, or is he too naturally biased against decent, honest law-abiding residents such as the neighbors are, and favors only clubs, strip bars, sex shops and adult entertainment centers such as Nika’s Dungeon? Personally, I think there is a “fix” here and some government officials got paid big bucks. I think such persons should lose their jobs and Nika and them should go to jail. Not sure where we should send Lamar, there is too much BS within his head. Relocating him is next to impossible. Is Mr. Billman up to the task? Let’s see if he is a journalist or just a reporter, or maybe the full story should be sent to a real investigative reporter. There are several individuals out there with the story waiting to see where this all will go and who will do right by the neighbor. If not, then accredited local and national media will get the story. They call the neighbor a “Moron” along with many other derogatory names, but the last laugh will be heard soon enough.
On 8/6/2009 9:28:19 AM, Anonymous said:
They say show me your friends and i tell you who you are,WHAT IF,your recent blog was VERY informative about the double standards and rule changes,sa they go along by the zoning and code enforcement departments.you are right, there should be an investigation into these practices.The federal government protect you from unfair housing practises.My advise to the Robinsons and their nieghbours ,is to file CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against the zoning and code enforcement departments in FEDERAL COURTS,and have an investigation done to see why they are so defensive of the adult entertainment centers next door to you.
On 8/6/2009 10:07:28 AM, Lamar said:
Given the fact that you think an LLC is a license for a bar, I'm going to disregard the comment about BS in my head. Having an LLC registered with the FL Secretary of State is not a license. It is merely a business entity. Whether it is a corporation, LLC or other entity, licensing and zoning are completely separate issues. As for the "adult entertainment center" issue, just read the damn ordinance for yourself. Go to www.municode.com and navigate Online Library, then to Orange County, FL. You'll be able to search from there. You'll be better off hiring a lawyer after careful research. Any decent lawyer will clear up those misconceptions and advise you on your possible strategies. As for my personal view, I just don't see how somebody can move in next to a bar then expect to shut the bar down.
On 8/6/2009 11:00:49 AM, Lamar said:
Anon@11:55pm - what exactly am I supposed to be defending myself from? I alone know whether I am actually an attorney or a bus driver or a secret agent or a bartender. So whether you think that I am disbarred, never barred in the first place, not a real attorney, or a barred attorney soliciting work, it doesn't change anything. My comments do not depend on any credibility or lack of credibility associated with the handle "Lamar". My comments stand on their own merits or weaknesses. And as far as ad hominem attacks go, you probably can't say anything I haven't heard before. So feel free to release your anger in such a way. I tend to think you'd be better off spending that time reinforcing your argument, but to each his own.
On 8/6/2009 12:03:25 PM, Anonymous said:
I think Lamar was caught with his pants down in a crowded cinema. Or was it a nudie Dungeon bar. Maybe the free beer and Cooking oil ran out and he is now unhappy or he just got caught throwing rubbish over the Robinsons fence. Whatever it was, he is hopelessly insane and grossly underestimating the nature on this dispute. Lamar is now fit to be tied and lowered into an old fashion toilet pit. What a waste of Grey Matter. Federal intervention seems to be a great avenue for the Robinson. I would advise them to go that route also. Lets start this already.
On 8/6/2009 12:29:03 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar, you are totally confused. Read the blog again. Whoever said an LLC is a license for a bar? The point is that you have to have both a legally active business with your occupational license at all times. You can't just have one. If you were really a lawyer or even a Burger flipper you would know this. Stop being so childish and defensive on the part of your client Nika. You need to be objective and not subjective. No wonder you are exposing yourself as a fool, Mr. Peewee.
On 8/6/2009 12:53:43 PM, Lamar said:
No, you do not have to have an LLC or a corporation to be responsible for occupational licenses. Do you honestly think the tax collector is going to forgo collecting on occupational licenses because the person runs a sole proprietorship or partnership? Maybe you are referring to a 'liquor license' or something else? You know, because it kind of matters. So, please, spare me your well-researched, impeccably cited legal opinion on the interaction between corporate entity filings, fictitious name filings and state and local licensing. However, if you want to say something that is actually true, I'll be listening.
On 8/6/2009 1:09:23 PM, Lamar said:
If I'm wrong, just point me to the citation. You don't have to be rude about it. Still, there is NO requirement that an occupational license be coupled with a corporate entity filing. None. Zero.
On 8/6/2009 2:43:35 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar you have no honour or credibility,and your arguments are not valid,your support for these adult entertainment centers tell everyone you are suffering from moral turpitude,you dont care where the money comes from as long as it is green.if you were a man of strong moral fiber. how could you support the exploitation of women, how could you be comfortable watching a female, that could have been your own daughter having sex in front of a bar full of men.REAL men are supposed to protect women not exploit them.would it be right with you if your daughter or all your femaale members become strippers? Remember the women who work in these adult establishments ,degrading themselves for your gratification are someone daughter,neice ,sister mother,aunt.wife ,girlfriend etc,they do this out of poverty, need or manipulations, by deviants such as yourselves and your associates. These establishments only harm society,contributing to drug use,prostitution,spreading of stds,under age drinkin,dui s etc.If you were a responsible member of society you would not support these types of business,or you dont care if your daughter becomes a stripper
On 8/6/2009 3:03:10 PM, Lamar said:
I've never been to the Dungeon, but it is my understanding that neither the Junkyard Saloon nor The Dungeon are strip clubs. So why are you going off on this tangent? Is it to draw attention away from the numerous incorrect legal statements made in this comment section? As for strip clubs, I don't go to those places. But really, who am I to tell an adult woman what she can and can't do? Is that what "real men" do? Do "real men" order their women around, dictating what they can and can't do? Sounds really liberating. If there is demand for naked girls dancing, then whoever wants to make money from that demand can do as they please. Just because I recognize liberty and self-determination doesn't mean I support that lifestyle.
On 8/6/2009 3:04:54 PM, Lamar said:
Oh, and I'm still waiting for that cite. Let me know when you've found it. Or, if its easier, you can admit now that you just made it up to cover up for previous incorrect statements of law. If that's what happened, of course.
On 8/7/2009 8:35:06 AM, Anonymous said:
LAMAR your response just confirm your immorality ,thats why you defend the adult entertainment centers so strongly .based on your reasoning if there is a demand for women to degrade and humilate themselves for money it is fine with you.therefore we can safely assume you may use or condone drug abuse, or sale because there is a demand for it.LAMAR you are a despicable person ,who make a living from the demise of his fellow man,
On 8/7/2009 8:55:21 AM, Anonymous said:
OH MY GOD. Please shut up shut up shut up shut up. SHUT UP. Or, better yet, take it to private email. Or, even better, JUST SHUT UP. ALL OF YOU. This is the most inane, useless and missing-the-whole-point comment thread I have ever read in my life.
On 8/7/2009 3:54:31 PM, Anonymous said:
You are right, Lamar is not answering the questions. He is more interested in seeing women get abused. Maybe he too is an abuser of women. He did not address any of the other concerns of Whatif. Lamar is a fraud, he probably works for this Nika woman, or this news paper. Which of these is your employer Lamar? He is so protective of Nika that it gives the impression that she is not just a client but actually her secret lover. That recent blogger asking to shut up, who are you? You never tried to stop the abuse of the Robinsons in this article or blog all this while. You too is a fraud. Why don't you give your email address so this conversation can be associated with it. Your women abuser friend Lamar can do the same. Keep the story going, I am learning a lot about this bar and its desire to destroy the Lockhart community. Prostitution, drug related crimes, abuse of women and all the related problems of an adult entertainment center will be the result. Of course Lamar will be very happy for this kind of result as he seems to hate women in general, Nika a possible exception. His mother probably did not breastfeed him. Poor dirty old man, will someone please change his diaper.
On 8/7/2009 5:24:07 PM, Anonymous said:
Since this thread is no longer about the property dispute, I am no longer interested. As such, I will shut up as requested. FWIW, If this is how you make your case, you probably shouldn't expect top-notch results in this dispute.
On 8/7/2009 6:55:37 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar, the Robinsons never had a property dispute with anybody, nor have they ever asked for your, Nika's or Orlando Weekly's opinion about their property, you idiot. Orlando Weekly and Nika started this whole charade with the above article, and you have decided to commandeer it and direct it into whatever you think this dispute should be and ignore everything else. The Robinsons property is their home and that's their business - not yours, not Nika's, not the Orlando Weekly's or anybody else's business. The bar is a rented spot. Just look back on the blogs if you need information. You want a property dispute? Go buy your own and take the adult entertainment center (budding prostitution shop) with you, Mr. woman abuser.
On 8/7/2009 10:45:52 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar, you seem to have a personal or a business agenda that you have to carry out with regard to the several matters being discussed in these blogs. So please be honest in answering each of the following questions: (1) Do you work for the Orlando Weekly or are you acting in a legal capacity on its behalf? (2) Do you subscribe to this newspaper or news media in any way, shape or form? (3) Do you personally know Jeffrey Billman who wrote the initial article above that has Nika’s photo featured in it? (4) Are you a mastermind of “AVOIDANCE” – avoiding very serious legal issues and various topics that are written about in the blogs and steering the arguments in one direction only in order to protect your beloved “clients” Nika and the Orlando Weekly? You have a tendency to nitpick from an entire blog that has several points to it and several subject areas which require readers and this news media’s attention and focus only on one area that suits you or that will hide Nika’s illegal actions. So on that basis, the next question is: (5) When you were going to school and your professors asked you to answer several questions, let’s say 10, or to discuss various topics within a particular subject, did you always just answer one and expect to get an “A”? (6) Do you believe in women’s lib for only Nika and other women in strip clubs, bars, whore houses and similar venues, or do you believe that women like Mrs. Robinson should also have the freedom to live where she chooses, live on her “commercial/residential” property that Orange County Zoning Department gives her the right to live on, without being attacked by this very news media, by Nika, her employees, patrons and supporters like you just because she does so? (7) Do you believe in justice for a white woman (Nika) as well as a black woman and other women of this world? (8) Why do you take these issues that are being written about so personally and get so involved in the blogging? (9) Are you being paid by Orlando Weekly or by Nika for the amount of time you spend blogging? (10) If you are a lawyer, where do you find so much time to spend on this site defending the undefendable unless you are being paid to do so? (11) Why are you so defensive when it comes to anything to do with Nika and “her properties” and are so ready to blast the Robinsons every chance you get, especially when you claim you don’t know Nika or have never been to her bar or dungeon? (12) Is it because you are covering up for Nika and the Orlando Weekly in some way because of this defamatory article they published about the Robinsons? (13) Is that why you are also regurgitating everything that was written by Billman in the article which all came from Nika in the first place? (14) Do you think it was fair, ethical and justified for the Orlando Weekly to take two private citizens’ private information behind their backs and without their knowledge, permission and approval and try to destroy their reputation and good name by publishing the articles it did as if everything Billman has written in there are facts just because he hears it from the very woman who has been trying to drive the Robinsons off their property ever since they moved into their home? Did you know that the Dungeon at 5225 Busby Avenue (and not 6440 N. OBT) was not “grandfathered” in as you claimed since Greenway Landscaping occupied that very building for a few years up to January 2006 before Nika expanded her beverage license over to that separate building and address? Did you read Billman’s article and see where he wrote that Nika built the second building (the Dungeon) just two years ago, even though that building was built in 1935? Are you all cut from the same material and emanate from the same “Pork Barrel” why you all band together and protect each other whether you are right or wrong and gang up against the Robinsons just because of the color of their skin? You are all acting like bigots and just trying to destroy the Robinsons. You need to attend a state-certified ethics class as it seems you have forgotten every ethical training you would have been given prior to becoming the lawyer you claim to be.
On 8/8/2009 2:57:25 PM, Anonymous said:
Anonymous on 8/7 @ 10:45pm, Lamarr, and all else.
Your idiotic posts are commandeering this website with nothing but conjecture, bullshit, and slander. You all have a bias. Lamar has one that leans towards the business entity, Anonymous has one that leans towards teh homeowners.
BOTH are acting absolutely like moronic children in this matter.
Just let the courts handle it and shut the hell up.
On 8/10/2009 12:13:46 PM, Anonymous said:
Since you are so smart, why don't you bring this topic to the courts and help with a decision. If you can't become active in its conclusion I suggest you shut the hell up and let Lamar the "woman-hater" and low life "country lawyer" along with anonymous have a go at hammering this matter out. Being passive and hoping for a conclusion is naive unless you are the barmaid, Nika. I don't think it's her who wrote this as she is as dumb as a old battle-worn Pitbull, and there are too many syllables said in your statement for her brain to function in that way. Help or watch. Orange County is just watching, they don't want to fix the problem they created, just letting it ferment and get worse.
On 8/10/2009 4:20:37 PM, Anonymous said:
Robinson's are filled with hate don't feed into the bottom of the pit.They are only into one subject one mission, Everytime they accuse others It is only to hide the problems they created. Laws are laws and they go for all this site is not for the purpose of them to vent out the anger they have. The bottom line is living on a commercial property and complaining about other commercial property. If they do not want any business on the streets in Lockhart then place your money where your mouth is and buy them all. The sad thing about everything is that society has music,sex,drinking,noise and more. If you can not deal with such then what is the answer? You seam to all have the answers then get back to the basics and avoid the harsh comments about others. This is going no place the Robinson's wanted court they have it maybe they do not have the sources to continue with the case. I think everyone avoids the fact that the Robinson's can continue on doing illegal acts and It only appears that they enjoy the verbal abuse. I think this should be directed to a private blog,If you think about it smart look at the laws about slander they continue on doing this over and over. To the person above who always has tacky remarks about dogs, You are the one who allows this to ferment and this is only getting worse.Orange county is watching and funny how they still post hateful comments on the fence line of there property.
On 8/10/2009 11:07:08 PM, Anonymous said:
There is nothing to argue about anymore.The facts speak for themselves,the code enforcement,and zoning departments broke their own rules by granting permits,and and allowing an ADULT ENTERTAINMENT CENTER, to operate in the middle of a residential neighbourhood.
On 8/10/2009 11:32:14 PM, Anonymous said:
Once again, the anonymous postings do nothing. ONe above says "take it to the courts and help with a decision." Obviously an individual who has no idea what the court system is about.
The only smart thing to do is LET the courts LET code enforcement LET the Robinsons and the owners WORK THIS OUT LEGALLY.
You are all just a bunch of bloggers vomiting out your idiocy.
And if anyone on here IS blogging "anonymously" that is involved, then YOU ARE BIASED for your side.
Let the courts rule.
Let code enforcement rule.
Let permits rule.
On 8/10/2009 11:34:11 PM, Anonymous said:
Oh and "I suggest you shut the hell up and let Lamar the "woman-hater" and low life "country lawyer" along with anonymous have a go at hammering this matter out"
Yeah.
Cause this will be settled by a bunch of gossipy bloggers on the Orlando Weekly. Better tell the Supreme court they have some competition.
What can be solved by bitching about it on a blog? YOU want to go out there and solve it - BECOME A LAWYER.
On 8/11/2009 11:07:36 AM, Anonymous said:
The truth always hurt, and now that it has EMERGED that an ADULT ENTERTAINMENT CENTER, is operating ILLEGALLY within boundaries of a RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBOURHOOD, with the permission of the zoning,and code enforcement departments.Now you dont want to hear about that,your big fear is that your game is up and the backdoor activities has come to light.Talk about courts and justice,have you ever heard of a judge ruling on a case involving himself,a friend ,a family member,a neighbour, someone he owes a favour?Code enforcement,and the zoning department are entwined in this debacle, how can they resolve this,in an unbiased manner?IMPOSSIBLE.Now back to the COURTS issue,there is postings that provides COMPELLING EVIDENSE that the dungeon is an ADULT ENTERTAINMENT CENTER, where nudity and sex acts are performed.Therefore with this strong evidence any judge will agree that the ADULT ENTERTAINMENT CENTER is operating ILLEGALLY
On 8/11/2009 7:12:44 PM, Anonymous said:
Seems to me this entire blog is run by the Robinsons and the employees of Junkyard Saloon - all the most vile, ignorant, ranting, biased, jack-assed, controversial needing buffoons that "ever a neighborhood did have".
Suggestion for the neighbors? Get BOTH evicted because they have NO idea how to resolve anything whatsoever.
On 8/11/2009 11:50:35 PM, Anonymous said:
When one read the first half of this story and blogs, the bar and its associates were bombarding the Robinsons with threats, lies and slander, they even protested with signs and placard at his fence. DEJAVU. Now that the true story is coming out that the Dungeon and Junkyard is an adult entertainment center Nika's friends are trying to silence the bloggers begging them to take it to another venue. Where were you when the Nika and her employees and drunkards were slandering and calling the Robinsons all sort of names. You had no sympathy for them, now that is is established that this place is actually a center for prostitution and drugs you want it to be kept under the quiet. Shame on you. Nika's plan is falling apart, she may have paid off County officials to get to this point, but they will soon abandon her to protect their own asses. This Madam and her supporters will have to do the same as any other best friend do when parting is near, just cry, hug, tell little lies like I will miss you and simply move on to the next bar. You all are just conveniences to each others, She want your money, you want her company and her crusty shoulders to cry on, her employees will lie and are to keep their jobs and the Robinsons are the target for all of you. This is not how life works. Grow up, the adult entertainment center (Prostitution House) run by the Madam is in the wrong place, less than 1500 feet from several residences. Zoning did not canvas the neighborhood before this license was granted, thus suggest that money change hands. Code Enforcement picking on one neighbor suggest even more of a cover up and an attempt to force the neighbor to shut-up. A gift from Code Enforcement to Nika. I suggest he does not shut-up. It is so easy to see through the lies, I bet the bar repeat these lies to their patron every chance they get. Now they are not only drunk, broke and ignorant but also full of anger from people with less intelligence than they have. BLOG ON, let the truth be known, even Lamar realize the truth and has gone silence to protect whatever little pride he has left. The sun will come up tomorrow, the bar and Dungeon will still sell drugs, the ignorant drunks will move to another peaceful bar, her friends will still try to protect her, the cops will still raid and she will still have to close the doors. Sleep tight.
On 8/11/2009 11:57:38 PM, Anonymous said:
Wow there 11:50 - you are not biased at all. Your rant is the same as all the others above. No one is trying to shut things down, all I am saying is you sound like idiots. Please feel free to CONTINUE sounding like IDIOTS, IMBECILES, MORONS, and just overall a pack of inbred "human" beings who cannot even function in their neighborhood! Glad I live FAR away. Nothing is to be kept "quiet"
The proprietors of this bar are IDIOTS and the Robinsons are equal IDIOTS as are you! See? No bias at all!
On 8/11/2009 11:59:36 PM, Anonymous said:
(and one has to love the fact that moron at 11:50 has to equate adult entertainment center with prostitution house. Fascinating little child.)
On 8/12/2009 10:57:16 AM, Anonymous said:
Too much anger from you guys and you don't even live in the community, maybe you would appreciate having her relocated to your community. Help to find the solution, seeming to be unbiased is of no use without action. Incidentally, how do you know so much about in-breading. Is your father your your uncle or grandpa or your mother your aunt or cousin. Please let us know. Maybe your mother met your father in an adult entertainment center and you are not sure which one of them is legitimate. Maybe you were adopted. Maybe you are a happy worker of an adult entertainment center or just a paid participant. Get the picture? Morons or idiots should not be judge from your state of mind especially presently. You may need as much help as Lamar the woman hater or Nika, the madam for this brothel or adult entertainment center. The community does not need a brothel, drug house nor johns roaming the streets because of this new adult entertainment center. We are like fascinating little children and could be easily damaged if we come in contact with paraphernalia or people entering or exiting from this adult entertainment center. Please help us to keep our innocence and close this adult entertainment center, you sound like loving people.
On 8/12/2009 11:34:38 AM, Anonymous said:
There is a lot written about The Dungeon being an adult entertainment complex and there is no link to the proof. if you'd ever been there it is a bar not a strip club dumb-dumb.
On 8/12/2009 8:21:39 PM, Anonymous said:
Why does it have a strip club license shared by both Dungeon and Junkyard Saloon smarty. The near future maybe. A sign of things to come, look at this video link made in the Dungeon this year then you tell us if it's not an adult entertainment center.“VAGITARIAN, GIVE IT TO THE WHORES” was made right inside the Dungeon in February 2009. I would advise everybody to watch it now before Nika and her people have it removed. Just in case Nika gets it removed before you have had a chance to watch it, just ask and you will be redirected to other sites where it can be viewed:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=54986839
On 8/13/2009 8:51:43 AM, Anonymous said:
Jeffrey Billman.
Please help put a stop to the inane bloggers "solving the problem" above by posting here, or in the magazine, an update on the situation. Does not have to be in depth - just the facts please so to speak.
Thank you.
On 8/13/2009 10:15:55 AM, Lamar said:
Anon@11:34 and Anon@8:21 (I just couldn't stay away) - Let's assume that the Dungeon actually has a "strip club license". Further, let's assume the place is an actual strip club. The issue was cleared by zoning and permission was granted. As such, you have a business in possession of the appropriate licensing doing business within the bounds of that license. More importantly, let's not forget that while it might not be a strip club, it seems to be a place that pushes the boundaries (that would be a reason to get an adult establishment license). So let's not pretend that The Dungeon is like your neighborhood sports bar. Still, if the "Vagitarian" video is proof that The Dungeon is a "strip club" then I have to say: Worst.Strip Club.Ever. Fat hairy men dancing around with dong helmets and beer guts? That's what you think a strip club is? I think it is very legitimate to want hairy dong rockers away from your neighborhood and children. But why call it a strip club? Isn't that a bit of a mischaracterization?
On 8/13/2009 12:09:50 PM, Anonymous said:
Nika, don't bother Jeffrey Billman about lies and trivialities, as you try to hide your true self. Your story is about to go Florida wide. Congrats to you and your adult entertainment center.
On 8/13/2009 2:48:56 PM, Anonymous said:
Woo Hoo!! Free advertisement Florida wide. That's awesome - should bring in more business.
On 8/13/2009 5:01:21 PM, Anonymous said:
YOU ARE ALL MORONS -
Not Nika
Not The Robinsons
Not ANYONE to do with this, but a reader of this paper who is FED UP WITH THE IDIOCY SPILLING FORTH ON THIS BLOG.
On 8/13/2009 9:34:51 PM, Anonymous said:
If you are a reader of this piece of trash, you really need a hobby. Try watching paint dry, it can be fun.
On 8/13/2009 9:55:18 PM, Anonymous said:
Orlando Weekly is happy with the blogging. This is the most readership it has ever had since its inception. We are all morons reading it, lets all give a moronic laugh at you who is taking it beyond your ability to understand it. I loved the video "give it to the whores". If there is no adult entertainment license would that mean they are doing an illegal business with the invitation of this group. Sounds like they are wrong no matter what. Probably Zoning in Orange County is made up of people with very little etiquette, and Code enforcement is a very bias group looking out for businesses and have no desire to help homeowners. May be we are seeing the wink, wink and ignore of the Commissioners office. They seems to be silent. I wonder if the Robinsons ever tried contacting them.
On 8/14/2009 10:12:14 PM, Anonymous said:
Mr. Lawyer Lamar, it's been 7 days now and you have refused to answer any of the questions that were asked of you on 8/7/09; but by not answering them we all know the answers, so that's OK. You have been caught with your tail betwixt your legs!! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!!! Yet you could not resist the “sex appeal” of coming back on the blogs as if your life depends on it. Is that what makes you tick? Is that how you get your kicks? Or is Nika your FIX? Is blogging your greatest turn on? It's obvious you are getting paid by the Orlando Weekly to blog on their and Nika's behalf. Nika does not even have to hire you, she got you for FREE! Are there no other jobs available even for a lawyer who claims he is so astute and knowledgeable about other people’s property rights? By the way, you remember writing this in your blog of 6/18/09 at 10:00:57: “Biker bars and metal clubs don't ruin neighborhoods. They take advantage of low real estate prices in neighborhoods that have already lost value. For what it’s worth, I have higher regard for an owner in Lockhart than for a renter in Thornton Park.” When you wrote that, you obviously believed what Billman wrote in the article and Nika’s lies that she owns the properties that she has her bars, only to find out that she does not even own a toilet.” So your suggestion that the Robinsons and other people in the Lockhart neighborhood should buy her out does not make sense. What would anybody be buying? Some beer and snacks that her Beverage License allows her to sell and nothing else. Nobody would buy her business. It’s INTANGIBLE. The three properties she rents are Mr. Horne’s. She has NOTHING!! Based on your statement, you should have “high regard” for the Robinsons who own their property next to the bar along with several others. As low as real estate value is today and low interest rates, looks like Nika still can’t afford a home or a property for herself with all the money she claims she had made. What about loans? Can’t she qualify for any? You wrote earlier: “For 8 years I lived across the street from two hospitals, a heliport, a busy intersection and a heroin clinic.” So you also chose to live in a dumpier part of town. Do you own where you live, or just renting? Looks like all the years you live among these various disturbances, your brain has turned into MUSH MUSH!! Just like Nika, it seems like you own no property. All your knowledge seems to come from the lies you read in the article above and the blogs by Nika and her supporters. Do you have to stoop so low, down to this news media’s level and Nika’s level (and believe me, she is the lowest of the lowest you can find) in order to survive? Is the economy really that bad? Orlando Weekly is just wasting their money on you. How much are they paying you? $10 - $20/hr? If you really are a lawyer, shouldn’t you be spending your time working for clients who will pay you $200 - $300/hr instead? Don’t you value yourself or have any ethics and ambition why you choose to be one of the several morons on these blogs? You are a good-for-nothing low-life blogger who is not worth an ounce of salt if that's what you went through law school to do...blog on behalf of Orlando Weekly and Nika. If you were the last lawyer left on earth, the Robinsons would not even want you for FREE!! I have worked with lawyers most of my life and you are the worst I have ever come across. You came on board to commandeer this ship and just end up in a load of SHIT!
On 8/15/2009 8:49:56 AM, Anonymous said:
Why do you all continue wasting your time on LAMAR,he is unemployed.He has been disbarred,and has a lot of time on his hands,this sleazy newspaper is the only place he can find work,the guy is washed up.He claimed to live for eight years across the street from two hospitals an heliport and HIS heroin clinic.where could this home be?Nowhere but an OVERPASS,THATS WHERE HE CRASHED FOR EIGHT YEARS IN A STUPOR, THATS WHY HE COULD NOT HEAR A DAMN THING
On 8/15/2009 10:13:10 AM, Anonymous said:
........yawn..........
On 8/15/2009 3:05:56 PM, Lamar said:
Anon@10:12 - In no certain order, when I wrote that I have higher regard for Lockhart owners than Thornton Park renters, I was referring to home owners. When I wrote about 'buying out' the property owner, I was referring to the property owner, not the bar. If control is what you seek, then ownership is the best way to achieve that goal. And that "dump" I lived in for 8 years just happened to be in the Murray Hill neighborhood of Manhattan. I do not work for the Weekly in any capacity. I'm just a concerned citizen. While I know Mr. Billman, you will kindly notice that we spar more often than we agree. Perhaps I post comments here so often to provide a balance of views. I'm not sure why you bring up women's lib other than to call me a 'woman hater' and characterize The Dungeon as a strip club or prostitution house. One of these days I'm going to actually go to the Dungeon and see what its all about. See? I've never been there! I'm disbarred! Nothing I say matters! I still don't see how mischaracertizations and personal attacks are going to bring this dispute to a resolution. As Samuel Johnson said, "You raise your voice when you should reinforce your argument." And just to grate on Mr. Billman, I'll quote the Iron Lady, "I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." Finally, it appears that the bar has the correct licenses and permits, but I can recognize Leonardo DaVinci's famous observation, "Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence, he is just using his memory."
On 8/16/2009 3:04:06 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar, sounds like you were drunk when you wrote the blog above. Nothing makes sense. Even Nika would have done better. Incidentally, you keep talking about buying out. You guys want to buy out the neighbor? Bring the right money and you can have their property.
On 8/16/2009 4:36:42 PM, Anonymous said:
Finally the elevator has arrived at the top floor.This craziness has gone on for too long and risk getting out of hand,which would not be of any benefit for either party.CONSIGLIERE LAMAR it is about time you resolve this matter.IT is obvious that the NEIGHBORS wil not be run off,and relocating the bars, will cause a lot of uneccessary red tape.Why dont everyone involved forget abuot PRIDE meet with the NEIGHBORS and make them a reasonable offer for their properties.This will enable the bar to have total freedom, to be as LOUD AS THEY WANNABE,SO LOUD THAT IT CAN BE HEARD ON THE SPACE STATION.I think the best resolution is for a buy out .
On 8/16/2009 7:03:09 PM, Anonymous said:
OH GOD SHUT UP PEOPLE.
On 8/18/2009 8:11:00 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar, my grandpa said,"Raising your voice doesn't make you win an argument, it just makes you look ignorant". The bar doesn't have the proper license as it is always conflicting its operation with the license it has. Nice touch with the unmarked car working for Nika on Friday night. I wonder how many get paid by her. The iron lady is a myth. The French burned the real iron lady "Joan of Ark". Real men, real political expediency. Your history is frail, civilization cough you at the brink of extension. Now you feel the need to pressure others. Isn't success in whatever form grand. Jealousy will eat you up and the victor is usually unseen. I guess as Nikas deflector your target is the Robinsons, they don't seem so simple do they. Experience is a hell of a thing, living under the feet of the many and varied who curse them just because they dare to excel. Quite novel isn't it. Arrogance and ignorance are just loud sounds. If you have been there you know. The sun will still rise in the morning.
On 8/19/2009 12:05:40 PM, skubersky said:
I'm starting to think Anonymous @ 8/18 8:11pm (et al) is actually a next-generation spambot that automatically combines random platitudes and ad hominem attacks into web comments. Can't wait for version 2.0 with grammar check... For the love of jebus, will someone please ban anonymous commenting on this article? Can I get an amen?
On 8/20/2009 2:23:42 PM, Anonymous said:
@ 8/19 above, go fly a kite or deal with the real issue. Your knowledge of spam adds nothing to the need for relocating the Dungeon.
On 8/20/2009 3:11:17 PM, Anonymous said:
Or relocating the house in a commercial zone.
On 8/20/2009 5:00:18 PM, skubersky said:
Or relocating this circular firing squad of AnonyBots to a different website...
On 8/20/2009 11:06:16 PM, Anonymous said:
We still waiting for our money bitch. We played at your Dungeon and not a dime. It was a long drive and a lot of time to think. We need our money bitch.
On 8/21/2009 6:19:54 AM, Anonymous said:
Hey crazy the place you are calling the Dungeon well for your information across the street behind Sharkey's was a place called the Dungeon It is now called the Woodshed It's still operating so the video clips are from that location not The Dungeon. Maybe you should go visit the store front and enter the back room you might have your fantasy. Try doing better homework.
On 8/21/2009 12:02:03 PM, Anonymous said:
The research was done and the video was shot at the Dungeon at 6440 OBT. You pointing your finger at another business won't work. You probably like sausages anyway at your Adult Entertainment Center. Eat the truth. Maybe you need to go back to your quiet spot in the corner near the garbage and come up with another lie.
On 8/21/2009 12:05:00 PM, Anonymous said:
See the crap they show at the Dungeon XXX-Rated. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=54986839 . Where are your morals.
On 8/21/2009 12:13:44 PM, Lamar said:
Myspace is X-rated now?
On 8/21/2009 1:03:48 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar Skubersky you need to stop looking at LITTLE GIRLS AND BOYS on my space.
On 8/21/2009 1:27:26 PM, Lamar said:
So now Myspace is not only X-rated, but criminal because it depicts little girls and boys? Wow, I'm glad you're so truthful.
On 8/21/2009 1:32:25 PM, Anonymous said:
If one - say a cultural anthropoligist - were to explore the meaning of the word "inbred" - they could simply get through about 2 years worth of research by reading the insanities posted above posted by both sides. The city should declare eminent domain on both locations, kick the homeowners out, the bar out, and start from scratch. When asked why, they should show how the presence of both lowered the intellectual and emotional level of Central Florida by quite a few percentage points.
You are all idiots.
On 8/21/2009 1:49:53 PM, Lamar said:
I take exception to that.
On 8/21/2009 2:43:23 PM, Anonymous said:
You shouldn't Lamar. Your provocations spur on most of the insanity. You are like a bug constantly stinging at a topic rather than discussing rationally. You use bizarre arguments, comments meant to poke, and prod. Like your more recent profundity (sarcasm) above.
Now. Those taunting at you do the same with spurious attacks, trust me.
This is a BORING topic that is SPINNING its wheels over and over and saying NOTHING.
On 8/21/2009 2:56:04 PM, Anonymous said:
LEAVE LAMAR ALONE,HE KEEP THINGS STIRRED UP AND CRAZY,WILL GET HIM A STRAIGHT JACKET FOR CHRISTMAS
On 8/21/2009 4:01:29 PM, Anonymous said:
And that is the point Anonymous at 2:56. You guys love him to yell and taunt him rather than have a worthwhile discussion. Some people do come here for that you know. If you want to taunt people, go visit a junior high.
On 8/21/2009 5:10:50 PM, Tabora said:
You can have an Amen from me Seth. :)
Also, I wanted to say, (Sarcasm button) I am thoroughly enjoying the back and forth here - I look forward to new comments posted on this article.
This may actually be the longest comment thread (about nothing) we have on the site. Bravo, everyone!
On 8/21/2009 5:12:32 PM, Anonymous said:
She owe us money too. I was told that she trick the bands to work for free but I did not believe. We ran out of gas after leaving the Dungeon after 11pm. Had to beg for gas to get to Jacksonville hope she rots in hell.
On 8/21/2009 5:38:02 PM, Anonymous said:
Anonymous@4:01:29 YOU NEVER MADE IT TO JUNIOR HIGH SO WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT .REMEMBER YOU DROPPED OUT OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
On 8/21/2009 6:01:43 PM, Anonymous said:
Anonymous at 5:38.02pm -
I owe you a big thank you for so well proving my point. What a child you are. Your jokes are not even creative, not even sensible, not even - wait - funny. Your insult ability is at a stunted rate of growth better suiting a mentally disabled 9 year old. You are so falling into exactly what I said - how nice of me to frame it all for you. Now you have a context in which to put your comments - ie: you are an imbecile. At last you have achieved something in life.
On 8/21/2009 6:23:16 PM, Anonymous said:
ANONYMOUS@6:01:43 I AM VERY SORRY FOR DISCLOSING YOUR SECRET,ABOUT YOUR SCHOOLING
On 8/21/2009 7:50:44 PM, Anonymous said:
Oh wow. ANONYMOUS WHO SCREAMS IN ALL CAPS AT 6:23 -
You must have some intelligence. One can assume since you are here that you know at least how to turn a computer on. It is a shame you choose so willfully to not use any of that in any of your postings.
Why enjoy showing your ass when you could enjoy being an adult instead?
If you wish to insult, I invite you to try to do it in an intelligent, supported, and even entertaining way. OH, and take the cap lock off, it makes you look like you do not know your way around a keyboard.
On 8/21/2009 11:42:06 PM, Anonymous said:
ANONYMOUS@7:50,YOU MUST BE A BIGGER IDIOT THAN ME TO BE ARGUING WITH SOMEONE AS STUPID AS MYSELF.THIS THREAD IS ONLY FOR IDIOTS AND IMBECILES SUCH AS MYSELF.WELL, IF YOU ARE ALSO ON IT THEN YOU ARE ONE OF US
On 8/22/2009 12:42:14 AM, Anonymous said:
Hah. Anonymous @ 7:50, you are laughable. I read the Weekly on a daily basis, enjoy posting on their blogs, and then see a pop up of - wait, a screaming caps ridden stunted adolescense fool like you - and I come here and taunt because you have no existence beyond CAP LOCK. You have to scream LOOK AT ME - because no one, anywhere else, even recognizes your existence.
Once again, I said, go for it. Insult if you will, but do so in an intelligent, supported, and possibly entertaining way.
Instead, you give us the Orlando Weekly equivalent of "yeah, well YOUR mother" - how sad for you. (oh, sorry, let me repeat that) HOW SAD FOR YOU. Next time, eat your Wheaties in the morning and a brain synapse or two may actually fire on.
On 8/22/2009 12:43:24 AM, Anonymous said:
Oh My, I just insulted myself. That entire post was directed at ANONYMOUS AT 11:42:06 - his mind boggling CAPS GOT ME DISTRACTED.
On 8/22/2009 1:09:50 AM, Whatif? said:
Let’s return to basics: The verdict is in and the Dungeon’s Barmaid LOST! On Monday 5/18/09 all the lies told by the Barmaid (aka Nika) in her Injunction against her neighbor were dismissed. Conclusion by Court: All her allegations were lies and manufactured by her in retaliation to her being arrested. The Barmaid and her associates, especially those hanging around the Junkyard Bar, are contemplating MURDER of the Robinsons. The Barmaid, with the assistance of her people, placed a HANGMAN NOOSE at the Robinsons’ fence during one of her shows on 4/4/2009. You, Nika, have an uncontrollable compulsion to lie, lie, lie. You have a captive audience of drinkers just swallowing up any story you tell them to make them forget about their miserable lives, and the drunker they get the more they believe your lies. You mastermind the entire article written in the Orlando Weekly and implicate as many people as you can as you Lie, Lie, Lie. Nika, from your blogs, it’s clear you are trying to get support from others just because you are white, not because you are right. That’s racist itself. You rent a building and conduct a noisy business that interferes with your neighbors’ sleep and peace of mind, sometimes up to five nights per week, from 8 p.m. to 3 a.m. at times. You constantly use Code Enforcement as your little “police force” to try to intimidate your neighbor, and the list goes on and on. All the fancy phrases, elaborate wording and temper tantrums from your supporters on the blogs will do you no good. They will soon return to their boring lives or start interfering with someone else’s problem. Nika, you are their sideshow. You feel they are helping you with diversions but they are only masking the pain you will soon feel. Your neighbor is now suing you for his legal fees because of the lies you told on him, a case you are sure to lose again. He is also aware that you will be unwilling to pay the judgment when he wins (a trick you have tried successfully so far by dodging payment of $20,000 you owe your previous landlord), so he will have to place the judgment against your credit so you will not be able to borrow a penny, take out an electric meter, or even go to the hospital without this bad credit showing up. How long will this situation last you may ask? Until you pay or wither away like an old twig, your neighbor doesn’t care which comes first. Remember court judgments also attract a fairly high interest. He may even decide to garnish your earnings until the debt is paid or even have your property seized to satisfy the debt. This is where this matter sits now, a woman scorning herself and wishing for a man to take the blame. All the other topics are trivial. Property rights are irrelevant as he has the blessing of zoning to live on his property. Ultimately your landlord will be sued for continuing to have a tenant who is disrupting the neighbors and affecting their health with your noise, etc. and we all know the rest of the story. One step at a time. Please remind your Drinkers that the unmarked detective is also checking their plates. I hear DUI will have a long lasting effect on them and their family and they will have you to thank for that. And for God’s sake, please pay the young kids after they play at your Dungeon all night so that you can make money, and don’t let these young talented kids who dedicate and sacrifice so much for you, walk away with only $15, $20, and in many cases not a dime at the end of the night. It’s bad enough to lie on the Robinsons, but to rob these kids is unconscionable!
On 8/22/2009 1:42:06 AM, Anonymous said:
To Anonymous at 8/21/0, 4:01:29: If you don't think these blogs have worthwhile discussions, why do you even bother to read this portion of Orlando Weekly? You don't have to. It's a choice. And to all those who like to tell people to "SHUT UP," "YAWN" and say they are bored and tired reading all these blogs, why do you all keep coming back for more "Boring Stuff"? You have to make a special effort to enter the Orlando Weekly website, go down the blogs, read them, and then make your stupid, unworthy comments. It's because you all find it very entertaining why you keep coming back for more. These "stupid", "boring," "moronic" comments seem to keep you all fixated on these blogs, you all can't get enough of the juicy stuff. Don't Orlando Weekly have other juicier stuff? You all are liars and crazier than the people involved in the dispute. Go get a life of your own and don't come on these blogs if you think everyone who has been writing on these blogs are morons and idiots. You all are hypocrites!
On 8/22/2009 8:45:10 AM, Anonymous said:
ANONYMOUS @12:43:24 THEY SAY IT IS BEST FOR YOU TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH CLOSED AND HAVE THE WORLD ASSUME THAT YOUR SMART, THAN TO OPEN IT AND CONFIRM TO THE WORLD THAT YOU ARE A FOOL WHO DROPPED OUT OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.ATTENTION DEFICT DISORDER IS NOT YOUR FAULT,AND YOUR INABILITY TO STAY FOCUSSED IS ALSO NOT YOUR FAULT.WHAT IS KEEPING YOU UP SO LATE AT NIGHT,OR YOU DONT WORK AND you are ON MENTAL DISABILITY
On 8/22/2009 9:50:58 AM, Anonymous said:
Dear Anonymous at 1:42 - very valid comment! However -
There are amazingly productive conversations and worthwhile discussions on these blogs, which is why I visit. Then you get posters like 8:45am above me that decide IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ACT LIKE AN IMBECILE precisely because in their day to day lives no one of import pays any attention to them. It is a cry for help. So I do choose to come on here often and have great conversations and input (spend about a dedicated half hour in the morning visiting about 5 different papers/blogs, then sporadically during the day revisit the computer to address responses)- and when I see people acting like imbeciles - which essentially shuts down the conversation - I call them out. Just like you called me out, and just as I responded to you.
Oh and Anonymous at 8:45 - you missed one possiblity (which does not surprise me considering your intellectual state) - some of us are financially stable enough that they do NOT have to work on weekends or on Friday evenings, and can choose to stay up past your curfewed bedtime. That and - oh - cells are amazing things.
Really look at yourself for a moment? If anyone can possibly decide who suffers from mental dissability it might be the RANTING ALL CAPS IDIOT WHO SPOUTS OFF GRADE SCHOOL MENTALITIES.
Again, you have been invited now a third time to show some kind of mental prowess. Come on. Is it really that difficult? Was I right about the synapses not firing off in the mornings?
Let us talk substance. What response could you have to the posting with actual substantive information done by WhatIf? @ 1:09? I for one am glad this is resolved, and a neighborhood - as sad as it is - can regain some normalcy.
On 8/22/2009 11:51:40 AM, Anonymous said:
HEY I AM "ANONYMOUS AT 8:45" AND I AM SCREAMING DID YOU CATCH THAT I AM SCREAMING CAUSE I AM REALLY SCREAMING BECAUSE THAT IS HOW I RUN MAN HOW I LIVE HOW I PLAY CAUSE I AM SCREAMING DID I MENTION I AM SCREAMING YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE NOTICED THAT IS WHAT I AM DOING CAUSE IN CASE YOU MISSED IT THAT IS WHAT IT IS YEAH YEAH YEAH SO TAKE THAT CAUSE CAUSE CAUSE I DON'T KNOW BUT I AM SCREAMING! YEAH! SO THERE! (not truly anonymous at 8:45 - this sarcastic commentary brought to you by C.F.I.I Citizens for an Intelligent Internet)
On 8/22/2009 12:04:02 PM, Anonymous said:
Hi Everyone: It's very clear to me who "Anonymous" on 8/21/09 at 1:32:25; 2:43:23; also 8/22/09 at 12:42:14 and 12:43:24 and again this morning at 9:50:58, is. He gave himself away so many times. His statement on 8/22/09 at 12:42:14 was a dead giveaway. And I quote: "Instead, you give US THE ORLANDO WEEKLY equivalent of "yeah...". Also he says, "I spend about a dedicated half hour in the morning visiting about 5 different papers/blogs, then sporadically during the day revisit the computer to address responses". On 8/21/09 at 1:32:25 he is asking the city to declare eminent domain on both the bar and the homeowner next door. This guy works for the Orlando Weekly. Jeffrey Billman and the Orlando Weekly realized they screwed up when they published all the lies, misinformation and CRAP told to them by the Madam of the Dungeon and the Junkyard, and they don't know what to do now but to try and get the city to run the homeowner off his property. He is not really interested in eminent domain being declared on the property owner of the Bar, Mr. Horne. He knows Nika has nothing, so he is really after the homeowners, just like Nika, Billman and Lamar are trying to drive the homeowners off their property. It's all a ploy by the Orlando Weekly to hide behind smokescreen, and this new guy comes on with all his fancy words and go off tangent to deflect everyone from the real issues that are taking place between the Barmaid and the homeowners. That's why he has been going back and forth insulting the other bloggers who are insulting him and he believes his "BIG WORDS" make him seem intelligent. But throughout my primary, high school, college and university years, my English professors always tell their students that someone who is really intelligent and educated speak and write in simple terms and use words that a reader does not have to grab a dictionary to try to understand what is being written. The issues following Billman's article and being discussed in these blogs are serious issues that affect people's lives. Now after he called everyone on this side "idiots" who have no substance(which of course would include him), he states in his blog above at 9:50:58 this morning: "There are amazingly productive conversations and worthwhile discussions on these blogs." This guy is confused. So Mr. Orlando Weekly Employee, please stop with your personal attacks on this other blogger who is also trying to match your insults and attacks. If you don't have something relevant and substantive to add, it's best to shut your mouth. Orlando Weekly and its employees have done enough damage where they are subject to lawsuits, so don't make it worse for yourself and your employer.
On 8/22/2009 12:32:24 PM, Anonymous said:
Wow. Imbecile. I do not work for the Weekly. How deflective of you - when one cannot support one's own arguments, when one chooses instead to rant and rave, then one uses this tactic to try to deflect. "Well they have an obvious bias".
How falseof you.
You claim I use BIG WORDS - what big words? Words that any common person with a grade school level of intelligence would have? If any words I used were too big for you, I would suggest starting small - like with The Reader's Digest - that may help you learn a bit of vocabulary with which to carry on a conversation.
And no confusion on my part at all (actually you were trying to prove an inconsistency that does not exist - hope that word is not too big for you) - there ARE amazing discussions on the Orlando Weekly blogs, (as well as the Orlando Sentinel Blogs, TOPIX, and many others). No confusion at all. When it does NOT become productive is when PEOPLE START SCREAMING AND USING ALL CAPS AND SCHOOLYARD TAUNTS rather than discuss the issue at hand. Like has occurred multiple times on this idiotic blog.
Now. As to the subject at hand - I think the Weekly did in fact come at this particular article from only ONE perspective and might have missed a lot of other complaints. Both parties in the above held much liability, unfortunately the article pits the owner of the business as the only victim in the situation - something that does not appear to be panning out in the truth (I am sorry, is panning too large of a word? Shown perhaps for your intelligence level?)
Your posting is laughable, I have not deflected from real issues, only provided a commentary on the banal and ridiculous YELLING AT EACH OTHER being done above.
You probably did not get that because you are part of the problem.
Note: If any of the above words were too large, just look up the definition in a dictionary - oh wait, is that word too large for you as well? Sorry. "Have mommy look them up in the big book on the shelf."
By the way, what you really want to say in your awkward and stammering little way (stammering is kind of like stuttering) is I am an elitist.
And you are correct.
Thank God for that when it comes to people like you.
On 8/22/2009 12:35:23 PM, Anonymous said:
Oh I missed the part where you said I used "fancy words".
God. You need to get out more often. You really do have limited world experience if you think my words are "fancy".
"Gosh darn there Uncle Clem, them city slickers sure do use some o' dem fancy wordings"
God.
On 8/22/2009 12:59:28 PM, Anonymous said:
For the sake of exploration I went back to look at my postings. I guess you could claim my use of the word anthropologist was showboating, but only if I spelled it correctly (which I did not), you could possibly claim the word “synapse” is a bit too technical, however it is a word I learned in 8th grade biology, so I will let that one go. You might think the word “provocation” was too high minded, but you would be fooling yourself. Let’s see “Wheaties” is a breakfast cereal – you might know that but I trust you are more of a “Frankenberries” kind of guy. So for the life of me I cannot find a BIG WORD that I used or misused (you are once again mistaking vocabulary for TONE but you are too ignorant and breathless from your rants to recognize that. My TONE is patronizing my TONE is elitist. Absolutely - once again when dealing with individuals like you)
So the only word I have come to realize you do not fully understand is this one: “Intelligence”. So let me assist you.
Intelligence – simplest definition – something you lack.
"Oh he did not."
"Yes he did."
Oh wait, you might have missed that too, let me put it in a non-elitist jabbering way you would understand: SOMETHING YOU LACK.
On 8/22/2009 1:43:31 PM, Anonymous said:
Does anyone else notice that not only does WhatIf? have WAY too much personal and intimate information about the ongoing situation, but that their hatred and spite is driven squarely at Nika personally? Hmmmm. Wonder. Who. They. May. Be.
They even reference an "unmarked detective" on property.
So. Do you think they are a patron of the bar? Nope. Think they are an employee of the bar? Nope! THink they are a cop? Nope. Perhaps they simply are someone who is firmly in the pockets/hearts of the homeowners. Hmmm. How about that.
Oh and moron at 12:04:02 - what sort of lawsuit is even possible when all the article does is reference the situation with the information the writer had on hand from the business? You really need to learn law, don't you? Nothing is slander. Nothing is libel. It is called reporting.
On 8/22/2009 2:08:53 PM, Anonymous said:
Poster at 1:09:50 with information about the case. Please, for the sake of credibility, post where you found that information. A quick perusal of newspapers, the web, blogs and/or news finds nothing about this except this particular article. If you found it online, please post link, if you know it from personal experience, state that as well (no need to divulge identity). Until then, it is just gossip and has not credibility whatsoever.
On 8/22/2009 6:34:17 PM, Whatif? said:
Since you asked, some of the information comes from "Myorangeclerk.com" such as the many injunctions Nikadena Santonino pulled on so many people, including her husband’s sister; her civil cases where she tried to sue her sister-in-law and her mother-in-law and others. The case involving her former landlord ($20K still owing by her and her husband and both still avoiding paying the judgment). Even her husband’s extensive criminal record are all there on the website and in the files at the courthouse. Some information was tested and answered further on in these very blogs by the said Barmaid (aka Nika). The more the Barmaid writes the more information she discloses. A lot of information also comes from her writings on her website “dungeonorlando.com”, and researching Orange County and other records. This is why she no longer blogs openly on her website and more recently in the Orlando Weekly. She now prefers to tell others to “shut up” when they start questioning her motives, her deeds and exposing her secrets that she does not want the public and the police to know about. Lamar gives her cover when he realizes her blunders and she called on Billman to shut down the blog when the truth starts to come out. She successfully convicted herself many times over. Reading the blogs tells much of the story. She fails to factor in that people who drink in her bar also talk about her in the community of Lockhart. They also give away her secrets. Her very drinkers who know the truth are laughing at her. She purges her employees when their conscience starts bothering them but they tell others the truth just the same. Her small world is getting smaller. Predicting her next move is easy and she can never prove any of my information wrong that I place on this very website. Hence, she continues to lose her sanity and her close friends continue to dissipate. Lamar continues to hold her skirt tail and now starting to look like just a common “brown noser” and her world quietly falls apart without anyone on the blog really knowing. I could expose much more of her history, her intents and her lying life, but as you can see I am still a nice person and I feel a bit sorry for her. I am also giving her a way out of her predicament before her world truly falls apart (Relocating). She has too much hate to see the door, so it seems she will run into her own sword. Read all the blogs again and you too will see the truth shouting out at you. Also, read her blogs on her own website "dungeonorlando.com". She deletes any comments that do not give her praise and is now restricting bloggers from commenting and viewing the lies she has been writing on her blogs and telling at her bar. I have these blogs saved and can present them if required, even those deleted by myspace because of the heavy racial and criminal contents she and her supporters wrote against her neighbor. I can see what she and others are writing secretly on her website; thanks to one of her friends. Let her continue to lie, let her continue to drive people away from her bar who she suspects of spying and passing on information to her neighbor. Let her continue to peek under the tables, stools and sheets. Her friends can be her worse enemies and I am closer to her than she thinks. Yes, Nika, you know me; I despise liars, thieves and those like you who prey upon the innocent.
On 8/22/2009 11:29:53 PM, Anonymous said:
ANONYMOUS@12:59:28 PM I HEARD ABOUT YOU SHOWBOATING WITH BIG WORDS,SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT YOU ASKED YOUR SON WHAT THE WORD ......EXTINGUISHED...... MEANS AND HE REPLIED....TO PUT OUT.THEN YOU LATER ASKED HIM WHAT THE WORD.... NARRATIVE.... MEANS AND HE ALSO REPLIED A TALE.DAYS LATER YOU HAD SOME VISITORS AND YOU WANTED TO IMPRESS THEM OF VOCABULARY SKILLS JUST LIKE WHAT YOU ARE DOING ON THIS BLOG.YOU WANTED YOUR SON TO PUT THE DOG OUTSIDE, SO YOU SHOUTED LOUD ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO HEAR! MARK!MARK!EXTINGUISH THE DOG BY HIS NARRATIVE.
On 8/23/2009 12:17:17 AM, Anonymous said:
Thank you for some information there WhatIf? I was specifically referencing the new information you posted which references that on 5/18/09 she lost her case, or at least part of it.
Please fill us in on what your place in all this is. You state a lot of information that seems very personal to you. Again, you do NOT have to give your personal identity, however, you seem to be deeply involved in this particular situation emotionally, intellectually, and it would seem even physically since you reference things on site. It would really help us here to make sense of things if you would at least give your frame of reference.
As to 11:29 - your newest rant makes absolutely no sense at all. I challenge you at any time to A) Make sense B) Insult in a logical and substantial way or C)Point out one single "big word" I may have used. Till then you are a panting salivating fool.
On 8/23/2009 12:41:50 AM, Anonymous said:
For your amusement:
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/ALL_CAPS (very Funny One). You can also reference http://www.simplehelp.net/2006/08/14/how-to-be-polite-while-youre-online-practicing-good-netiquette/ which has this great information: "Don’t type in all capital letters - Typing in all capital letters on the Internet is considered rude because it is difficult to read and comes across as very aggressive (LIKE SHOUTING!). If you take away nothing from this ‘how-to’ other than knowing that typing in “caps” is widely despised on the Internet, consider it time well spent."
On 8/23/2009 11:37:50 AM, Whatif? said:
When you and Lamar identify yourselves and your involvement in this matter we may be able to get together at a more civilized bar such as George's or Wiggle Inn or Lamar's favorite Gentleman's Club and discuss the subject as adults looking for a solution. (Did you know she gets people beaten up if they are strangers and have no reference when they enter her bar?) I don't care which big words you use as long as you use them properly. Incidentally, you can buy copies of the police reports on these matters. You will see that all the allegations told by the Barmaid against her neighbor were investigated by the police and found to be lies. If I am talking about a subject I like to have the correct information. Just posturing does not help either side. While you are at it, buy a copy of the transcript or CD of the Injunction from the courts and you will hear for yourself the lies being told by the Barmaid in her own words and the way the judge admonished and dismissed the Barmaid's case. The CD is not expensive. Maybe Billman could spend a few dollars to get the truth if he wants to publish the truth. I am also closer to Nika than you may think so I get a fair amount of information from her. The neighbors are not wild, uncivilized people. Try talking to them and you will be surprised how intelligent they are.
On 8/23/2009 11:47:58 AM, Anonymous said:
Hello WhatIf?
My frame of reference is very simple. I am NOT involved with the case in any way, have never been to the bar or even that area. I live in a different county yet work in Orange County.
I read the original article and found it interesting, and yes found myself more on the side of the bar than the neighbors. Those posting above with intelligence and decorum are helping to round out my opinion of the situation.
My personal involvement is zero. My emotional involvement is zero. My intellectual curiosity is certainly high when it comes to the matter.
I luckily have not postured on the matter above, other than to realize that A) There are many like cap-lock boy above who come on here merely to spout hatred and B) There is more than meets the eye going on here on the side of all parties.
I believe - from what I read above - that there is a lot of mutual provocation going on between the parties (homeowners/bar)and I am amazed that in this particular day and time they cannot come to a resolution without resorting to these bizarre tactics.
Now. Once again you pull yourself more into the subject. Buying transcripts and cd's of the injunctions/closer to Nika than you may think/Try talking to them, etc. So I realize that A) You are close to one or both parties and B) Probably are not as objective as one standing outside the situation (not that that is a bad thing)
With only intellectual curiousity and no inherent need to "purchase" anything, I hope you can post here actual court information to help inform us of what the goings on are.
Thanks.
On 8/23/2009 1:44:10 PM, Anonymous said:
This is for Whatif concerning the reference to more civilized bars?? Are you kidding? George's Hideaway and the Wiggle Inn are no better or worse than the Junkyard and if you truly have been to any of these bars you would know this. A bar is a bar - some have live music, some don't but there is still the same bs going on. They are bars - if you truly are an observer you would know that underneath all bars have the same things going on in them - the common link is alcohol, everything else follows behind. It's human nature. And the "neighbors" are foolish to believe that anyone really cares about their problems with The Dungeon or any other business in the area. So whatif if the neighbors are sooo intelligent as you say they are, why would they live on property across the street from two bars and less then a block away from another. They would have to know that bars are open to 2am and that there is traffic going and coming. And intelligent people don't draw attention to themselves - they direct it onto others don't they? Because they don't have to use their mouths or put silly illiterate signs on their fences, they would use their minds instead.
On 8/23/2009 1:52:10 PM, Anonymous said:
Anonymous at 1:44:10 - while all bars serve alcohol, the atmosphere is greatly different between say, a martina bar, a restaurant bar, a club bar, a pub, and a heavy metal bar. Whatever judgement or comment you wish to make about alcohol usage (I do not drink by the way) your generalization is too simplistic.
I do agree with you greatly about neighbors living near bars - when you purchase or move you look at the entire area first - both during he day and night.
When I purchased my home, I came in the morning, I came during the day, and I came in the middle of the night to see what the environment was like. I also travelled block by block in about a 10 block radius around to see - some areas nice, some areas not so nice - look at all before you make informed decisions. Not a great idea to live anywhere in that close of a proximity to any business, let alone two - three bars.
On 8/23/2009 2:27:02 PM, Anonymous said:
Wow. Actual conversations. That is great. -
Signed,
Actual thinker.
On 8/24/2009 1:04:32 AM, Whatif? said:
Great conversation and insight. Firstly, George’s and the Wiggle Inn are healthier environments to drink at, because they do not have roach problems. The problem the neighbor is experiencing is not with the Junkyard bar but the heavy metal club called the Dungeon, which began five (5) years after the neighbor purchased his property in 2003. The Junkyard bar (formerly Brenda’s Watering Hole) was not a problem to the neighbors prior to the Dungeon. They had been coexisting over 5 years without the neighbor complaining. The neighbor could not have predicted what would happen next door 5 years after he purchased his property unless he was a prophet. As has been stated many times before, the heavy metal club (Dungeon) occupies a zinc shed used as a landscaping company up to 2006. All the neighbors are now being affected by the noise but some are too scared to do anything about it because of the aggression displayed by the Barmaid, her husband, her employees and her friends. Many of the homeowners who own their homes for up to 35 years and who live within earshot of the Dungeon have been blogging in these very blogs about how the noise at the Dungeon has been affecting them. Others call the authorities at times. The Barmaid made it worse by lying on the neighbor and trying to get him thrown in jail. Let’s not forget the poor old lady in her late eighties whose home is only 30 feet from this newly established heavy metal club. She owns her home over 35 years now, but she is too old to fight for herself, especially such an evil and crazy force as Nika and her army of mercenaries. What should become of her? How would you view her situation if she were your mother or grandmother? Living with noise pounding from 8 p.m. to 2 a.m. can pose a real health problem for everyone. The poor old lady is going deaf from this heavy metal pounding in her head constantly over the last 2 years. The Barmaid, Billman’s Orlando Weekly and Nika’s Lamar character along with others try to make the Junkyard bar the source of the problem, but the real problem is the Dungeon. Nika got arrested because of the Dungeon, not the previously existing Junkyard bar. One would never hear Nika refer to the Dungeon as anything but a bar. The Orlando Weekly reported that she got arrested because of noise from her BAR. That’s not true. She got arrested because of the extremely loud noise coming from the heavy metal /adult entertainment club, the Dungeon. The decibel reading did not incorporate noise from the Junkyard Saloon because there was no noise from there. It also did not include any noise from OBT traffic or from bikes at her Junkyard bar as Billman reported. The reading was based only on the noise coming from the Dungeon. The Orange County Environmental Specialist made sure he measured the noise coming from the Dungeon and nowhere else. So the Orlando Weekly report on that is FALSE. There is a lot of misinformation published in the Orlando Weekly article and being passed around by Lamar and others. If you believe the story written by Billman, you would also believe Nika owns the two properties where her Junkyard Saloon and her Dungeon are located, especially when Billman reported that Nika built the Dungeon two years ago, even though that building has been there since 1935! Billman also reported that Nikadena Santonino owns the two buildings, which are also lies because she rents them. This woman does not even own a home or any real property whatsoever. It was established from Orange County records that she lied on her application when she applied for extension of her beverage license over to the Dungeon. But of course, Zoning never bothered to send out their field officers to check on what she has really been doing at the Dungeon, at least 6 months prior to her even applying for the extension of her beverage license. Now they feel embarrassed to reverse the decision they already made. Imagine giving permission for a heavy metal club/adult entertainment establishment to operate 15 feet from one resident, 30 ft. from the old lady on her R1 property next door to the Dungeon, 135 feet to 300 ft. from other residents on Journal Ave and less than 1500 ft. from other residents, which is the municipal code requirement separation for this type of business such as the Dungeon. I think someone at Orange County got paid to allow her application to go through when it violates the municipal codes. A federal inquiry is needed to review this type of practice. I, “Whatif” also initially believed all the information written by Billman, but after seeing the volume of one-sided comments that immediately followed the article, I found it difficult to believe that the neighbor could be all that bad and decided to do some research to satisfy my curiosity. Knowing now what the real issues and facts are, I see otherwise. Whatif’s intent here is to present the facts and let thinkers decide for themselves. You will notice that only platitudes are being extruded from the Barmaid (aka Nika), Lamar and those supporting her. Only Whatif is giving facts - none of which can be proven otherwise. They also know that if they try to dispute any point presented, Whatif will be forced to explain further, which will reveal more of what they are trying to hide. Remember what we first learned in science class? The teacher will always give higher marks for facts rather than posturing. She took out an injunction filled with lies on her neighbor, the Barmaid’s fourth one in as many years. A judge heard her case and concluded that she was just retaliating against her neighbor because he complained about the noise coming from her Dungeon Club for which got arrested. The mistake she made is, she thought she could run her neighbor off his property with an injunction, constant harassment, threatening to burn his house down, threatening to murder him, placing a hangman noose at his fence, calling code enforcement and building department on him numerous times, making several calls to animal control with false reports about his dogs, even calling the fire department on him when there is no fire, and constant racial slurs from her drunken patrons and employees. There I go again revealing too much. It is much more interesting when you hear the truth. The neighbor is now suing her to recover his legal fees. Can you imagine this woman has been involved in eight court cases all of which she lost! Nika is truly a court hog. As she and her supporters love to write, Karma is a bitch and it will bite you. She talks with silky voice to drunks, but has a fork tongue just like an old lady friend I met in Italy. Lamar says he is a lawyer with much knowledge about property rights, but I would rather go to this neighbor for advice, especially since Nika herself reveals that he owns 21 properties. There is very little that I have said here that is new, these were said previously in the blogs, many pages before. My great uncle once said, “Silent neighbor thinks deep; and he who knows and knows that he knows, seek him.” Jeffrey Billman refused to interview the neighbor and uncover the truth, but prefers instead to stick to the lies he wrote. A poor example of journalism. Shame, shame, shame on Jeffrey Billman.
On 8/24/2009 2:33:19 AM, Anonymous said:
So essentially you are stating that because George's Hideaway and The Wiggle Inn don't have a roach problem according to you they are now not only civilized but also healthier to drink at?? Are you serious?
On 8/24/2009 2:51:37 AM, Anonymous said:
Thanks for the info WhatIf - I did understand the difference between The Dungeon and Junkyard, but the clarifications you put in were very helpful. It is a fascinatingly interesting story, and I wonder why none of the other press seems to have found any of it. I did minor searches, and nothing in the Sentinel or other media - in fact other than info on the bars themselves and listings on things like Metromix and websites etc, there is NO mention of these events..........Now, Anonymous at 2:33, that is nto what the poster was saying at all, they were simply giving some anecdotal information to support an idea - but it was only part of the support. Not sure where, out of that lengthy posting full of information and opinion that THAT is the only thing you got out of it. You can agree or disagree with anything the poster said, but to land on roach problem indicates you read and absorbed only about 23 words in.
On 8/24/2009 10:00:11 AM, Lamar said:
Whatif, (1) Billman never "reported" that Santonino owned the land upon which the bars (Junkyard or Dungeon) are located. (2) Billman didn't "refuse to interview the neighbor", the neighbor refused to comment due to pending litigation (which is standard practice) (3) The Robinson's may have purchased the neighboring property in 2003, before the Dungeon was in existence, but the abutting portion of the property was in a commercial zone, and in 2008, the Robinson's deeded the property to VJ Homes LLC, and they were claiming homestead exemption elsewhere (i.e., the neighboring property was NOT used as a residence when the Dungeon went in). (4) After the Dungeon went in, there were 3 years without serious complaints. So while you may choose to consider these inconvenient facts "platitudes", they are essential elements of this dispute. For example, is it a platitude to note that the business run out of the Dungeon obtained the necessary licenses? You may argue that Orange County was "paid off", but that doesn't make the proper licensing a mere "platitude". It simply means that you wish Orange County went the other way with it. You are claiming to present "facts", and dismissing facts you don't like as "platitudes". How does that work? I've tried to be objective here, and all you've accused me of is acting as an agent for "Nika" or the bar. Did it ever occur to you that I might have simply decided that a properly licensed establishment shouldn't be shut down because of a new neighbor who just moved in? Or that the neighborhood has better options shutting down the business? Or do you find it more "honest" to claim that I'm a mole, Billman reported a bunch of things that do not appear in his story, and that everybody who might disagree is involved in a conspiracy? If a science teacher gives higher marks for facts over posturing, where does that leave your claim that Billman reported Santonino "owned" the property? Or that I am a "Nika character"? Or that Billman refused to "interview the Robinsons"? Does pointing out these "made up facts" mean that I am biased, or that I simply read the story? I mean, seriously, a "Nika character"? C'mon.
On 8/24/2009 11:18:25 AM, Anonymous said:
I don't think Lamar really read the blog properly that Whatif wrote, as he is doing just what he is being accused of. I too have more than one home and I don't have homestead on any and at one time had homestead on one at the beginning of the year but later moved to another. Does that mean I lose any right to claim where I live as a residence? Certainly not. Homestead is mostly for tax purposes and it restricts a true investor in his ability to manipulate his business. Q-C-D a property to a company is also not illegal or improper, in these times that is common. Another way to eat your cake and have it. Lamar you are thinking out of phase and there is far more bias showing as you write. I remember Billman writing another article after the injunction case and no interview with the neighbor either.
On 8/24/2009 11:24:09 AM, Anonymous said:
Anon @ 2:33. Only the owner of the bar would put up such a defense. I note also she never denied that there is a roach problem at the Junkyard.
On 8/24/2009 11:49:48 AM, Lamar said:
Anon@11:18 - The fact is that nobody ACTUALLY lived in the commercially zoned "residence" when the Dungeon was built. How many of your "residences" are in areas zoned commercial? And if you move your family into one of those areas zoned commercial, do you really think you would be successful in shutting down the businesses that were already there and properly licensed before you moved in? Your argument about homestead exemption is so far out in left field that I don't know what to make of it.
On 8/24/2009 12:14:58 PM, Anonymous said:
The fact of the matter is, this home in question (and others) is in a mostly commercialy zoned area. That is never a good thing when it comes to keeping the peace between neighbors. Businesses come with certain benefits and liabilities to those living in surrounding areas. I for one would think one hundred times before ever even looking at a home within this close a proximity to businesses - most especially bars.
The Dungeon, which existed before the Robinsons residency (correct me if I am wrong about that) was properly zoned and properly liscensed (again, correct me if I am wrong) - even if now the zoning may regret their decision.
There is much that can be done between the parties to resolve this issue, but as is evidenced by their behavior, and the behavior of some writing above, it is so much easier to attack than compromise.
No one is going to win in this situation till that occurs. Either the Dungeon will move - not fair to them - or the Robinsons will move - not fair to them.
On 8/24/2009 4:56:47 PM, Anonymous said:
As a resident close to both parties, I think the Dungeon is falling apart as the neighbor choke off its oxygen. If the operator is intelligent enough to see what is happening to her business, she would find another location before she ends up with nothing. This neighbor has brought this street from the dilapidated condition it was and has refurbish his house and landscape his yard, which now looks great. The drugs dealers coming by the Junkyard bar and hanging out along with prostitutes with their Johns on that road are almost all gone. The area is more peaceful and quiet again, the police are driving through the area more rather than stopping at the bar on so many weekend nights and I think he is doing a great service to our community. I support him and I too will call the authorities on the Dungeon if need to. I pass on some of the nights when there are performances and in particularly last weekend and there were bands members standing outside waiting for customers. None was showing up. Her neighbor seems to be a real show stopper, yet they call him a moran. I am thinking of visiting him to get advise for my real estate investments. He seems smarter and more content than Lamar @ 10:00 and 11:49. All of Lamar postings seems to put him as an investor in the Dungeon. A real bad investment from my point of view.
On 8/24/2009 5:50:47 PM, Anonymous said:
While you are getting real estate advice, maybe they can also teach you how to use a dictionary or possibly spellcheck??
On 8/24/2009 6:17:09 PM, Anonymous said:
Anon @ 5:50. That is all you got from the above? You probably spend too much time at the bar with the roaches. How pathetic!
On 8/24/2009 11:25:38 PM, Anonymous said:
To Lamar at 10:00:11 A.M.: The subject of property rights have been gone over and over and over to the point of ad nauseum. Repeating the same thing again and again won’t make your argument any better and won't change the fact that Nika does not own any property whatsoever, except some beer and snacks. Her business is an INTANGIBLE. There is nothing to move if she was to find another venue for her business. You know what they say “INSANITY” is? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. You fit perfectly into that category. For that alone, you need to be put in the same straight jacket as the Barmaid. A more perfect couple you would not find!
On 8/25/2009 8:43:45 AM, Anonymous said:
I just love this, who is the bad guy and who will get run out of town The Drunk or the preacher, he ugly bar Operator(her picture at the beginning of the article) or the neighbor(great looking couple as I haven't seen their picture)? Zoning who screwed up don't want to fix the problem, Code Enforcement apparently taking sides,(I have seen the bars and they are breaking several obvious county codes) and the sheriff seems to be taking a hands off. Both parties are making noise and not sure who is ahead. Lamar stirring the pot like a drunken village lawyer and whatif the great researcher. Billman the reporter fudging and twisting a story trying to get to the big TIMES news paper. and all the other varying characters. America, isn't she great! This is a wonderful story made for TV. Both parties could profit from this, they know the truth and intricate details. Capitalism can get to work here, all that is needed is a little help from a good organizer and producer. They may not be able to live in harmony but why not make some money while in dis-harmony. There must be someone out there reading these blogs who can make this happen.
On 8/25/2009 9:24:12 AM, Lamar said:
I may be a drunken village idiot but don't "great researchers" occasionally get a fact right? Or at least admit when they make a claim that isn't accurate? Still, you're right that capitalism should get to work here. Both the Dungeon and the homeowner should hire a contracting crew to install some green glue layers. But why let a simple solution get in the way of an entertaining fooferall? (and FYI, having a lease means having property rights).
On 8/25/2009 4:07:58 PM, Whatif? said:
Lamar, why do you sound so jealous of Whatif? I have all of the facts right. None has been disputed successfully. You were not called an idiot by the above blogger, just a drunken village lawyer. However, since you consider yourself an "idiot" then so be it. Since Nika’s lease, in your opinion, gives her “property rights”, that makes her portable. So she can go lease another location and exercise her rights there. As another blogger pointed out, her business is intangible. Even you should know what that means. She has nothing of real value. I understand that her lease will be up the end of September. Great timing. It blends right in with the renewal of her beverage license. Maybe she will risk signing another lease, spending another year or more fighting a pointless, profitless battle. Remember the saying, "He who fights with bare chest leaves with a thousand cuts" and “He who fights a battle with no gain, gain a war with more battles". There is still only one solution and it's the Barmaid’s move. Owners buy to stay and stay they do. You may not understand the mentality of a strong person, so let me explain. When they say this is their home, this is their home. You should get out more, take a carefree vacation, go to other parts of the world, mingle with the natives, don’t just wither away by your keyboard. I guarantee it will change your life. You don’t understand cultures strange to you. I don't anticipate the neighbors have the desire to give up their rights just because you, Lamar, Nika, Billman or anybody else thinks they should. You should realize that by now.
On 8/25/2009 4:54:52 PM, Anonymous said:
With all due respect WhatIf? "I have all of the facts right. None has been disputed successfully." - neither have they been corroborated by anyone but you and what you say is true. You tell interested people such as the poster above to go "buy" the information, when you can simply post the exact wording (simply by cutting and pasting) and giving us the case numbers/info/files/etc - something you have not done ever. So in essence, until you provide those, while your posts are informative, they are also complete heresay without credible support. If you have these items - which you say you do - it should be very easy to provide all of that to us. Not disputing that you have them, just saying post them as part of the argument. Otherwise, it is as good as me saying "What about the news from yesterday! It was proven in the court records that the "blank-names" were convicted of perjury in this case!" - I can say it (no, it is not the case) but there is no PROOF or validation that what I say is true. (and it was not)
So pony up here with the info, or - if you do not do that - you can never say "I have all the facts right."
On 8/25/2009 5:35:35 PM, Lamar said:
Whatif has gotten several "facts" wrong. And, really, can you trust anybody who claims with such certainty that they have "all of the facts right"?
On 8/25/2009 7:09:37 PM, Anonymous said:
I went to "myorangeclerk.com" then click on my clerk in the online box. Now I can search until my heart's content. I found several of the facts whatif was writing about. After searching for and finding a few other names, I will no longer talk to one of my neighbors and have lost respect for my girlfriends father. The bar owners file has her husbands name in it and the last name is different. I would not trust him around a supermarket or a farm. If Lamar could give his real name, I could run a report on him as a courtesy to the blogging world.
On 8/25/2009 9:01:23 PM, Anonymous said:
HAH. That is funny - informative - and decidedly funny Anonymous at 7:09:37
Thanks!
Will check that out.
On 8/25/2009 10:15:59 PM, Anonymous said:
Get a life Lamar, we don't think the bar is capable of paying you enough for the amount of abuse and misdirection you are taking for them. Maybe you are spending time beneath the witches skirt. Or just having your "head" polished by her. Whichever it is, it is not enough. Don't bother to comment on my grammar, I already know it's bad.
On 8/25/2009 10:45:56 PM, Whatif? said:
Lamar, you are a real sucker for insults. Do you not have the intelligence to follow through in a direction when I point it out to you? Simple instructions are too hard to follow? I will not hold your hand, especially since I don't have a clue where you keep putting it. Do like the other blogger and go look for yourself. Orange County has a wealth of information, some may even include your distorted sexual history (since you state you enjoy watching young boys and girls on myspace). How can it be hearsay just because you are so darn lazy to go find it or pay for it? If you push me too much, I could destroy the reputation and credibility of the Barmaid with more information than what even I think is justified. Go buy the transcript yourself and stop being so damn cheap. Do you live outside the Orlando Weekly's side wall in a cardboard box or are you truly what you claim to be, an "idiot"? Stop whining and crying like a little girl. Your mommy didn't give you any breast milk when you were a baby? Nika's tits wont help you now, too long and too dry. "A man he was of stature bold, a child by action and by mold. He little saw nor understood, the idiot". Go look up this poem, you will see a mirror image of yourself!
On 8/25/2009 11:02:37 PM, Anonymous said:
Hey WhatIf? - I am the one who has been blogging and asking you questions out of sincere curiosity.
Can I ask - kindly - that the insults to each other on here stop? I find you to be asking meaningful questions about the situation, and then it is a little odd to see you making spurious attacks on others here (yes, I am meaning the Lamar character).
He is frustrating, yes I agree. But making sexual aspersions, whining and crying comments, and disgusting comments about the bar owners "tits" really does not add to much to credibility.
Perhaps - even if he does not - you can treat him with some respect, and he might come around to some compromises and actually discuss the issue. - Just some thougths from a friend.
On 8/26/2009 12:11:34 AM, Whatif? said:
I am very happy you responded to my rant. I have been very suspicious all along about these "Lamar" and "Skubersky" characters, and so I decided to do some research within the same Orlando Weekly's website. I have completed my research and now I know for certain who Lamar is. He is one and the same person as Skubersky. If you go to the Orlando Weekly and search for Lamar Skubersky, you will see a twinning of both characters. The verbiage in other articles and blogs are consistent with what is written in these blogs. Skubersky always posts an article and immediately comments on his own article as "Lamar". Lamar Skubersky has been writing articles in the Orlando Weekly for more than a year, but lied that he does not work for the Orlando Weekly. Lamar is Skubersky and Skubersky is Lamar. That's why Billman ran to his rescue when Lamar could not handle the heat of the facts. Therefore, I see no need to continue to recognize either character as they are only representing and protecting the interests of the Orlando Weekly, Nikadena Santonino and her roach-infested excuse-for-a-bar. Their goal is to continue this story written by Billman indefinitely just to create ratings and to protect the budding prostitution and drug establishments such as the Dungeon and Junkyard - not to get to the truth or to help settle this matter. Forgive my skepticism, but if you are truly a concerned reader, please look at the information I provided and do what is necessary to assist with a proper conclusion. I have wasted enough time with these Orlando Weekly characters/employees and their egos and I will also blow their cover in other blogs on this very same website. See you, Billman and Lamar Skubersky on your other stories, blogs and web pages.
On 8/26/2009 12:19:22 AM, Anonymous said:
WHATIF? - First off, I am neither SKubersky or Lamar - I am the individual posting above who has actually been having a good conversation with you, and agrees with you. I thanked you kindly for providing info, informed you of my frame of reference, etc.
Now.
I did the same thing.
I put in Lamar and Skubersky and got a number of hits. I also put in Lamar and Bilman and got a number of hits. I also put in Lamar and Schneider (steve schneider) and got a number of hits.
All you were getting was times Lamar posted on blogs.
I have fought with him on other ones (under the name actual thinker) - he posts on almost every single blog.
SKubersky/Jeff Billman/Steve Schneider are all writers for the Weekly - Lamar does NOT appear to be.
Why so interested in discrediting people? Why not just discuss the issue as you do with facts? To do the discrediting you are doing is a bit obsessive. If you do not want to deal with them, then do not post to them.
The point of my posting was you make a LOT of sense - why sully yourself with the ad hominem attacks, the destruction of credibility of others, and the sex jokes? You are better than that. Fight them with facts, not insults. You know better than to do that - so why do it?
On 8/26/2009 1:17:57 PM, Whatif? said:
Ok anon @ 12:19 above, talk to me.
On 8/26/2009 1:50:40 PM, Anonymous said:
I do! - I will start using my moniker for you as identifier:
-Actual Thinker
On 8/26/2009 6:44:08 PM, Whatif? said:
I am still listening.
On 8/26/2009 11:15:25 PM, Whatif? said:
You are so silent I can hear you scream! "It's a long time I've been Sitting on this fence watching you watching me, one day I was late and you didn't see me. You look left you look right, I was no where in sight. You look up you look down, I was not around, you started to run and a car knocks you down..... It's a long time I sit on this fence witching you watching me". Great poem from a great writer.
On 8/26/2009 11:41:36 PM, Anonymous said:
Whatif? - Not sure what you are waiting for me to say! I said a lot in that last posting because it was a concern of mine. That is all. I agree with your postings, just dislike it even when someone who is as correct as possible goes around playing the insult game - that is all!
Looking forward to anything else that comes up on this blog - other than people screaming at each other!
- Actual Thinker
On 8/27/2009 2:01:19 PM, Anonymous said:
Why don't you have Whatif blog about what happened in court the other day? Funny how they will not speak of the evil ways they have with this community. How they support the other bars in the area the reason why is because they are involved with the Wiggle Inn.
Funny how they talk about the music coming from the Dungeon I would be more concerned about the shooting coming from the Wiggle Inn dodging bullets is more concern then music. To all that are trying to dig up dirt on the bar and the owners and the family think about this.
Dig up on the neighbor and see how quick Whatif will come right back at you. Some people make the choice to hide and accuse others only to avoid the truth. Roaches oh that is a good one the only roaches are the ones living across the street, Or maybe you should try having some lunch at the Wiggle Inn while the roaches take your chicken wings away.
On 8/27/2009 2:40:19 PM, Lamar said:
What happened in court? (somebody other than Whatif, please. I'd like to know what ACTUALLY happened.)
On 8/27/2009 3:12:06 PM, Anonymous said:
Please stop the pissing contests. Lamar, they will probably not tell you - the entire post at 2:01:19 was there for only these reasons: To provoke. To insult. To destroy crediblity. NOT to inform.
So, please, with great consideration 2:01 - why not inform us on What indeed did happen in court the other day? That will give us much to discuss here on this board -rather than just trying to figure out "whose is bigger"
- Actual Thinker
On 8/27/2009 3:52:52 PM, Lamar said:
Actual Thinker - fair enough. But don't forget, our "great researcher" has looked into it, and I am a "wanderer" who's "running from or being shunned by my metrosexual buddies" (6/19@12:52), and I am an "alcoholic, possibly a drug user" (6/19@2:54) and part of a "murder conspiracy" (7/22@11:58). These are all facts from "Whatif" who says "only Whatif is giving facts - none of which can be proven otherwise"(8/24@1:04). Such facts include "Lamar is Skubersky and Skubersky is Lamar", my "distorted sexual history" (8/25@10:45) and the fact that I didn't get enough "breast milk" as a child (8/25@10:45). This doesn't even include the insults from "anonymous", who says I'm both disbarred and looking for new clients, as well as "idiotic Lamar", "girly man" and sexually involved with anybody they perceive me to be "defending".
On 8/27/2009 7:06:33 PM, Anonymous said:
Let's give Lamar a round of applause for recognizing all his weaknesses! Nika at 2:01:19 p.m., pay your lawyer so that he can tell you what happened in court so that you can tell us on the blogs. Unlike the bands who you don't pay, lawyers don't work for free. There is not one person who I know of who enjoy the company of roaches, maybe except you, Nika. I now drink at the other bars because it's true what "Whatif" has been saying. I think "Whatif" has given us so much facts that we would be foolish if we don't go to the various websites and links, like myorangeclerk.com and the "Vagitarian, Give It To The Whores" link. I checked out these sites and had to change my opinion of Nika. She is more evil than I ever thought she could have been. The mistake I made was to listen to the smooth-talking barmaid Nika while I was partially drunk. Bye-bye Junkyard!
On 8/27/2009 8:58:27 PM, Anonymous said:
This reminds me of the times I worked in a small village in Mexico. There was a little board shack where food was cooked and served. The food was one on the tastiest I have ever had, but the place was always filled with flies. You had to compete with these flying bandits to swallow the food. Whatif reminds me of this delicious food and Lamar the flies, ready to just barf all over the good food. The flavor is secondary to him, making it unappetizing is his only goal. He must be one sorry old soul to carry so much sadness and meanness in him. I was like that. Prayers do help.
On 8/27/2009 9:10:38 PM, Whatif? said:
Let us all listen to the Barmaid @ 2:01. She seems to be ready to divulge some court information. I have not updated myself as yet with the case, so any insight from my roachy Junkyard Barmaid friend will be appreciated.
On 8/27/2009 9:50:56 PM, Anonymous said:
Lamar why are you having a PITY PARTY? it was you who turned this thread into an insult contest.All of your earlier blogs were very condesending and has a flavour of arrogance.This may be a LESSON FOR............ YOU TO TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED
On 8/27/2009 10:03:30 PM, Anonymous said:
Maybe you should stay at the Wiggle Inn with all the gangs and drugs and high prices along with the roaches, As far as orange county records look up the Robinson's in the following states California,New York,Florida. We do not get things for free or even try to destroy others the way they do. Get your facts straight before you go screaming a bunch of garbage and insults on the internet. The Robinson's want to take charge of this whole area they pay off people to gang up on others, So as far as your community is concerned you should not sell out to a perfect stranger. The trial date is on 10-15 all lawyers are paid on the Dungeon side what about the Robinson's? All the people that are mentioned in the above statements from Whatif they will all be in the lawsuit you are doing research on names that have nothing to do with any of the above statements.The Dungeon will protect the patrons and the employees against any gang related issues by the Robinson's or any friends that they pay off. i feel truly sorry that you are so involved into bashing normal people for your own self gain. Do you honestly feel that all of this is going to take away all the local business just because you feel that you want to own the entire community? If you are into taking away the American dream of someone who has a business and is trying to make a living,then you are taking away the American Dream of making something out of nothing. Maybe you all should look into doing something more productive then wasting your time or the other hard working people who are trying to make a living. The economy is hurting all of us and If we keep fighting against each other it will only cause destruction of all people,regardless of there race or nationality. The bottom line is this they meaning the Robinson's made the choice to move into a commercial property that is across the street from several bars now who is at fault for that? Normal people would have kept things on the down low and learned to get along with others, but They made the choice to battle with one bar not against all the bars just one. They made racial remarks to customers as well as employees they also have made the choice to bring in family names only to try to destroy several families. The bottom line is that they are angry because they are racist and are upset that they can not control the situation. The hatred that comes from them is not only the dislike of music it is the dislike of women,beer,bars. I would have not moved into a home that is zoned commercial across the street from any pub, reality is that you are vicious with remarks that have nothing to do with zoning or county.Since when does the Robinson's know anything about music they claimed before that they hate the music,How sad is that every night you stand out in your front yard holding a 10 foot high pole with racial signs It's very funny that the florida storms have not knocked it down. The war that you have caused is coming to an end make any slang remarks or insults only shows how ignorant you truly are. Let's get back to the facts and stick to that subject only and leave others alone that have nothing to do with this matter.
On 8/27/2009 10:37:43 PM, Anonymous said:
batman says this, You got in my face Mr Robinson at a local store and I did not appreciate the way you treated me you called me a cracker and pushed me in my chest, I want you to remember that day when you lie in court about this whole situation. You are the racist one who continues on making racial remarks to a white man who goes to the local bar you then followed me to the local store and started with me for no reason at all. I have lived in the community for 48 years and I truly do not appreciate the scam that the Robinson's are doing. I do not like the way Mr. Robinson approached me and said he was going to call the police this is his normal routine. He tries to intiminate people just because he feels he is dominate and can push people around. I'm not scared of you but I feel that you are attacking the innocent people. that i feel going to the pub the Robinson's are outside there house screaming holding signs calling me a dumb ass cracker, We all know he is trying his best to ruin a good business and he is just racial.why did the county make him take down his signs? he is no good for the community by placing up signs that are racial and sexual he has no respect for the community as well as for the blarring siren sound that he does every 15 minutes from 7 to 2 from his commercial home, that he has turned into residential that is illegal and now he lives there and sits and complains about everything when reality is that he has it re-zoned commercial and the entire street is zoned commercial not residential he has no right to claim anything he purchased the property in late 2003, he never lived there until march of 2009. Funny how coldwell bankers had a commercial sign posted up for sale for $350,000.00 then they rented out to multi familes as residential 3 times and that is against zoning regulations, the cost that he was renting it out was $1000.00 but if you where white the cost was $1500.00 I know this for a fact because i inquired within. Funny how they claim the fire department was called on them when Janneth started a fire was fanning the smoke out the window then started screaming and played the loud signal so a neighbor called the fire department thinking they where hurt. We have all done investigations on the Robinson's who are not from this country at all and who do not have a legal business. P.s. there is one guy who does not like you BATMAN! get a clue people.
On 8/27/2009 11:49:58 PM, Anonymous said:
Gotta say this - going to leave this thread for good. There is nothing even remotely profitable anymore. It was actually going very well up until the pissing contests started up again.
Lamar - you do tend to incite people to insult. Here and elsewhere. You probably have a lot to give but my friend - take a close look as to why all those insults come at you.
WhatIf? I hope you continue to post information - and keep the insults away.
And all those others hurling insults in one direction or the other - that is what is causing this problem in the first place.
Not profitable for anyone.
- Actual Thinker.
On 8/28/2009 12:46:05 AM, Anonymous said:
"Actual Thinker", I am 100% positive Nika the Barmaid writes the last two blogs before yours and you will be convinced too. She was asked to give the info about the court and she gave it. QUOTE: "The trial date is on 10-15 all lawyers are paid on the Dungeon side what about the Robinson's?" She tells us about her Dungeon, her patrons and employees. She writes one blog and immediately after she finished she writes the other blog and tries to disguise herself as an old man living in Lockhart for 48 years. But she is full of such venom and hate for the Robinsons that she loses herself and the disguise falls off her very easily. Everything she said in those two blogs are things she said and wrote before. She repeats these things again and again for months now. She is a man in the second blog, then became a woman as she writes more and more. She made up that story about Robinson following a man to the store, called him a cracker and pushed him in the chest. If this "Nika man" is so sure Robinson did this to him, why didn't he or Nika call the police? It's just one of her many crazy thoughts and fantasies that she has about the honky and handsome Robinson guy that she even fantasized seeing naked in his front yard. In this blog she is Batman when she started, then an old man, but eventually became a woman towards the end. She is truly a witch, capable of changing her shape, identity and personality all at the same time, or she is just a crazy nuthead ready to be put in the "WHITE SUIT". So "Actual Thinker", you want to have some fun and get to know this WITCH? You can't miss her style of writing and her idiosyncrasies. Just like me, you will learn them. She talks about "normal people" but she does not even understand the meaning of the word "normal" because she is a very sick and abnormal person. She displays schizophrenic tendencies. That's why she makes up these crazy things about the Robinsons. All this talk about California, New York and Florida is CRAZY talk coming from her all the way back in April, with everything got thrown back in her face but she is too dumb to accept facts. I truly believe she is beyond help. "Actual Thinker", if you read her blogs again, you will find a lot of information about her and lies she continues to tell on the Robinsons. It's not difficult to read between the lines of Nika's blogs. I too stop drinking at her Junkyard because of her constantly changing personality and her roaches...cheaper beer or not! Ambience is very important to me, and the other bars offer a much more pleasant and congenial atmosphere.
On 8/28/2009 12:54:51 AM, Anonymous said:
It's so much fun watching Nika flying off the handle, getting so confused and making a damn fool of herself.
On 8/28/2009 9:26:57 AM, Anonymous said:
No wonder this problem will never be solved, because....robinsons and nika are both INSANE.Blogger on 08/24@11:25:35 states that INSANITY is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.All of you have been attacking each other for quite sometime now and nothing has changed,they also say any FOOL can start a war but it takes a strong man to make peace.ROBINSONS or NIKA my question to you both who is the STRONGEST?Who will take the first step towards a compromise.NONE of you will win outright,a compromise is the only peaceful solution.How a truce sound to you? No attack this weekend, starting tomorrow,one person or both try it and see what happen,then we will know who is truly the WARMONGERER, And please post what you have done in your effort to make peace with your neighbor,and your neighbors response.by doing so we can use this blog to pass judgement on the WARMONGERING NEIGHBOR.
On 8/28/2009 10:14:41 AM, Anonymous said:
You must be living in a sterile world, you are probably someone who want to see a war with guns and tanks but no blood. You probably want to sit by a fire holding hands and sing happy folk songs. You probably even think the attack on the USA was a movie production. Grow up, people are defending, maneuvering and working out their strategies here. Grab a chair and watch, chime in sometimes, watch the guts, weakness and strength. Learn why other kids beat you up at school. Stop trying to part a fist fight with your face. Get off the couch and get in the ring and get some. Lets liberate the Junkyard roaches and clear the Dungeon of the witch and batman. Lets clean up the street again. Let sanity rules and let the Red, White & Blue shine through. Let the neighbors resolve their problem their way. The Orlando Weekly and it's employee bloggers created this monster problem. It's may be difficult for you to see but both can't win. Losers and winners really exist!! When all is over, we can gather at the Wiggle in or Georges for a real cold one and lament or celebrate the end.
On 8/28/2009 11:13:48 AM, Anonymous said:
To Anonymous at 10:14 - I am the individual who chooses not to particpate in a discussion about property and business/homeowner rights because of bizarre insults, rants, sexual debasement, name calling and the such. Maybe I just want to have an intelligent converesation?
However, I will join the fray - since you think me incapable one woudl assume by your bizarre and hilarious ad hominem (and not very creative attacks) and since there is not moderation here, I will enjoy saying (instead of using actual thought and argumentation) that (and logical posters, I hope you understand why I am posting this as an example) "YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOTIC SCUM SUCKING DICK LOVING ASS FUCKING IDIOT" - Is that better? Is that the kind of rhetoric that makes you happy? Do you feel so much better now, all safe and cuddly rolling around in your own feces? Cause that is the kind of argumentation that went out once someone actual grew pubic hair - and a lot of the type of tactics that are being used above. And the fact that you defend it and mock others who choose not to use it is a great indication that A) You have no crediblity at all B) That your life is probably of the lowest possible common denominator and C) You are an idiot who chooses purposefully not to think.
- Actual Thinker
On 8/28/2009 6:33:57 PM, Anonymous said:
Mr and Mrs. Robinson I truly do not appreciate you saying that I have been writing on this blog, I'm very understanding to your anger these days as far as the person who wrote the last comment BATMAN! That was not me at all you should ask your husband about the attack he started with that person. I'm very tired of your insults towards everyone you think you are a Prima Donna you also act like you are a powerful woman who looks like a top model maybe you should take a long hard look into a mirror. I have not insulted anyone on this blog you rant and rave about nonsense your main topic is my apperance as well as your famous insults "The Witch". Since everyone is so into your tacky insults then so be it,You continue on and on with your lies about the whole mess, and by the way you have created this evil plot against the whole community. Maybe everyone here on this site should realize that you have many things to cover up and for sure oneday it will all come out. I will not be as low down and evil as you are to announce everyones name on a blog just to make yourself feel better. And as far as my husband I'm truly sorry you dislike him as well maybe that is because he will not allow you to speak harsh words nor does he like the fact that you still continue on with this game,Or better than that he told me lastnight that you now have to target him because you dislike guys who have longhair and play in a band. Funny how you get right on this blog we all can only assume that you are sitting behind this computer day in and day out only to try to destroy us. I truly feel sorry for anyone who is consumed by your venom and you are always calling out other people hmm,maybe your closet needs some spring cleaning since you enjoy telling everyones elses dirty laundry. Yes I'm pissed yes I'm angry at you for telling lies and for also trying to gang up on the innocent you really should go someplace to clean your soul and move onto another. I do not want anything to do with you or your husband I do not go near your place at all so stop with your fantasy maybe you should write a book and leave well enough alone.
For anyone else out there that is reading all this trash this is truly the way I feel "It is what It is" I'm allowing the courts to deal with this case that is why you pay a lawyer correct? I did not ask to be a public display of humiliation but the way I feel right now I'm dealing with 2 people that are physcopath and have a disorder to communicate with others or get along. So the main question I have for all of you is this, Why is It that I'm not allowed to run my business but they are allowed to run a business that is nowhere to be found? Check out VJ Homes LLC as Mr. Robinson why is he a sun contractor without a license, By the way as far as any of the claims that the Robinson's are making about the Dungeon being an Adult Entertainment establishment well my answer to that is the following, I thought all bars where for adults i thought we had rules over 21 to drink and that is what I operate. As far as this video that you all speak of that was a band that made a choice to wear what they wanted to it was also a private show not to the public. Also think about this look over the past bands like Elvis,Jackson,Kiss,Ozzy, the list goes on, they all have the right to wear what they want and look the way they want, but I guess not for the Robinson's. It only shows by your above statements is that you are desperate and you are trying your best to avoid the first situation It's all zoned commercial so get off of it already! Just because you made the choice to live here does not give you the right insult others nor does it give you the right to make such racial and harsh statments. I truly do not care that you live on a commercial piece of property you should give me the same respect I show you. I do not have signs all over the place I do not make sexual remarks across the street I do not try to ruin there lives.As far as the community I feel sorry for half of them because they truly have no idea how much they want to change the area, I'm not saying that the Robinson's have not cleaned up there yard but damn this has gone a bit far. Why is it that they want to take over the community what is the motive? I have no problem with the older woman who lives in the community I have much respect for my elders If she has a problem with my bar or the music then I would be more than happy to discuss that with her. Comment after comment Whatif only talks about evil and harsh words about others or they try to give me threats about closing down my bar. I love this new topic about Roaches I wonder if they are talking about the bug or people there is no telling when it comes to them. Florida has roaches!!!!! I pay to have my place exterminated to bad I could not exterminate the stupid statements that they make. Don't think that we all are stupid we all know that you dominate the entire blog with your friends and family members soon you will run out of air and learn to continue on with the proper case. You have violated my employees as well as my entire family your sexual remarks and racial remarks only show your lack of being compassionate. Maybe you should place more input on your secret business and leave others alone. Stop with the statements that have nothing to do with this case nobody is interested in your vile remarks towards bands,facial features or style of music. Lets talk about zoning commercial property laws and such. Did somebody force you out of your home? did they make you live in a place that you do not want to be? I have done my research on the Robinson's but I will keep that to myself and for the courts to the public be careful do not fall into the web that they create,Unless you sit out here and view the performances that the Robinson's give then how can you remark on one bar one person think about it. Where and why did they come around here? 1/2 the community has that same question 1/2 is torn by this whole case but for the main amount of people they do not agree with assaulting others or hurting or forcing people out of there property or homes. My advice to the entire community is to stand strong and protect against anyone who will offer you a third of what your true property value is worth. I have had 4 people from the community talk to me saying that times are tough and that they where offered a mere $15,000.00 for there property they sold it only to have renters placed in the property who will be the next victim?
And one last thing stop using other bar names like that is a big threat Bars will be Bars!!!! when you mix booze,fun things can change personalities change you just need to face the facts of life. The economy sucks right now for all of us but one thing I know for sure is that when people in the area need something I give food sometimes even just a good ear to listen to there problems. If some people do not want to come into my bar anymore that is fine they always come back I truly care about the people in this area and really do not appreciate how you mock me for your own self gain. I'm out of here this is such a low down festival of hatred God forbid anyone would have compassion and enjoy life for what it is! Truly feel sorry for them all the good people are gone while this nasty couple still gets to survive in a life that is so screwed up! Oh hell once they get a hold of this one they will say I'm physco for sure lol......The Witch with no face try to top that name Lard A**.
On 8/28/2009 7:03:14 PM, Anonymous said:
I have heard it said that witches can change its form at any moment during late night, but for Batwoman to turn into Batman is quite extraordinary. Batwoman metamorphosises into a witch, then a bat, then an old man and then back into a witch and becomes the Barmaid again by daylight. If someone had told me before that this was possible, I would have told them that they were crazy. But you have certainly made what I thought was impossible, possible. Batman/Batwoman Nika, I have seen you lock yourself in a cage inside the Dungeon (yes, the photos in your Dungeon website also corroborate what I am saying) and played the witch role over the years that it has now become such a natural part of your devious personality that you cannot now distinguish the difference between reality and make-belief. Why do you hate colored people from another country so much? You tried to belittle the Robinsons by blogging and also telling everyone at the Junkyard and the Dungeon that they are from Haiti. I happen to know that they are not. But what if they were? Do they deserve what has been done to them or said about them because of their race and culture? Why is it so easy to pick on Haitians? Aren’t they human beings just like you? What’s the difference? Is it because they are black and you are white and you think that the Constitutional Bill of Rights are for you but not them? Wouldn’t that make you a racist! Haitians are among the most educated, ambitious, kindest and loving people I have ever met, and many of them are in business for themselves right here in Orlando! They are multi-lingual, they own restaurants, churches, real estate businesses, mortgage broker businesses, insurance businesses, stores, bakeries, etc. etc. They help to support their family and loved ones back in their country with the money they honestly work hard for in America. They help to build this country by paying their fair share of taxes and providing employment for others, just like many of the other people who have come here from other countries and help to build this country. They stick together and support one another, something that is foreign to many of us. So when you, Nika, continue to make up vicious lies on the neighbors, especially when you tried on several occasions to put Mr. Robinson in jail, unsuccessfully (and obviously still trying with the lies you made up in your “Batman” story), and you and your employees and supporters keep blogging and saying he should to go back to his little country Haiti, it is clearly racism against an entire group of people and country. Nika, you are Italian, but because are white you think you are better than people of color and you think you have more rights to live in America than others who are legally living in this country and building it for the betterment of the entire nation. Why are you referring to the Robinsons as “total strangers”? They have been around this Lockhart area much longer than you have. Over the years, I have watched them turn that dump property they bought in 2003 into the beauty and charm it is today. Even I used to ask them if they were going to demolish the home they now live in? That’s how bad it was. Nobody else wanted to buy it while it sat on the market for many months before they purchased it. I still can’t believe the transformation they have brought to the home, the entire property and also Busby Avenue in general. The street is no longer a garbage dump where prostitutes and johns used to hang out. Tree cutters no longer come and dump the trees they cut down from other people’s property onto the Robinson property as they did for years before the Robinsons purchased it. And why are you still going back to your old argument about them living on a commercial property? You and Lamar have sucked every bit of juice you could out of that argument, so recycling and repeating the same things is now very boring. That’s why I find “Whatif” to be far more enlightening, informative and entertaining. The reason you are so pissed is because you knew that once the Robinsons moved back to their property that they were living on before, you and them cannot co-exist. That’s why you took steps to send Mr. Robinson to prison by lying on him and pulling the injunction so that you could drive him and his wife off their property and have the entire block for yourself again, without the police getting involved or knowing about all the things you had been getting away with for all these years. The Robinsons moving back to their property has nothing to do with whether it’s commercial or residential. It has to do with them standing up for themselves and not allowing you and others drive them off their property. Batman Nika, why do you hate the Wiggle Inn so much? Every time there is a criticism of your bar, you have to say horrible things about the Wiggle in and other bars. Because the health department came to your bar and found a major infestation of roaches and other critters, you think other businesses are as nasty as you and your bar? This is why so many of us, your former customers, are now enjoying the more pleasant, cleaner and healthier atmosphere at the Wiggle Inn, George’s and other bars. For those who criticize the Robinsons for buying a property between two bars, the former Brenda’s Watering Hole and the Wiggle Inn (the Junkyard took over in 2006 and the Dungeon did not come into existence until two years ago), there are so many homes directly across from the Wiggle Inn, an entire subdivision as a matter of fact, and also a mobile home adjacent to or adjoining the property of the Wiggle Inn, but the Wiggle Inn does not have heavy metal noise that’s so loud it could burst one's eardrum. The Wiggle Inn also is not a problem to the Robinsons, and neither was Brenda’s Watering Hole. So that goes to show that a lot of people who choose to buy homes and live in them across from a bar or next to a bar are not “idiots” and “morons” for doing so. Those hundreds of homeowners across from the Wiggle Inn on Journal Ave and other streets nearby have been living in their homes for years and years without any loud noise disturbance from the Wiggle Inn or the former Brenda’s Watering Hole. You, Nika, are the idiot for bringing heavy metal music in a heavily residential neighborhood and think you would get away with it FOREVER! When the Robinsons fight back, as they have a right to do, you, Lamar, the Orlando Weekly, its employees and friends of theirs and yours, come down on them like a ton of bricks and call them the most vicious and insulting names and try to destroy them and their reputation in every way you all could - spewing hate and racial comments and attacking them venomously. You, Lamar and the Orlando Weekly writers involved in this dispute are all bigots and racists. Lamar, the fact that you claim on this website to be a lawyer when you are not, you are guilty of the serious crime of “impersonation of an attorney”. I would not be surprised if the police visits you soon. Bye for now Batwoman, or is it Batman?
On 8/28/2009 7:35:44 PM, Anonymous said:
The county officials created this mess,and there is very little they can do without getting into costly litigation with either party.they cannot force the robinsons to move from their home,without risking being sued by the robinsons,and the same goes for mrs santonino.Burying your heads in the sand will not change anything the reality is there and one day you will both have to accept the facts.(a) the bar may stay in business for maybe the next 15 years,likewise the robinsons may choose to stay in their home for the next 15 years.My question again is are you willing to make peace and enjoy the next 15 years,or grow old and miserable fighting and blogging about this junk for the next 15 years.You all can go to court every day for the next 15 years, but the reality is no one can be forced legally to leave.So much energy and fun times are being wasted.One should take the high road in this matter,stop attacking for just one weekend,and show the other you are the better one.
On 8/28/2009 9:34:11 PM, Anonymous said:
ANONYMOUS at 7:35:44
At last a realistic, non insulting, cohesive, coherent, positive posting. The first out of 314 posts.
All the posturing above is for naught when you look at the fact that this is a real world problem in which it is impossible for any party to come out the winner.
Thank you for your post! You have given me one more shot at believing there is some thought going on out there.
- Actual Thinker
On 8/28/2009 9:38:57 PM, Anonymous said:
Oh and - Anonymous at 7:03:14 PM, - you are an incoherent drunk mess. Just shut the hell up because it is your impossibly bizarre rants that cause the problems here on this blog. WhatIf? I hope that is not you because - whether I agree or disagree - when you get past your insults you are actually trying to inform. If the individual posting as "Nika" above actually is - why not, instead of forcing more confrontation here, fill us in logically, and with precision, what is going on in this situation from your point of view. And please include an actual rundown of court actions/etc that have occurred since the article was publishe.
- Actual Thinker
On 8/29/2009 12:22:54 AM, Whatif? said:
Never depend on Nika for accurate information. You can depend on her for lying and cheating and even putting you in jail, but not accurate information. She is incapable of being logical, precise or telling the truth. I think the court proceedings did not go her way and she is on the verge of spending more money on lawyers than if she had just agreed to pay the Robinsons for the legal expense she forced on them unfairly and unnecessarily. She could have enjoyed a free trip to L.A., California, show her ugly mug on The Judge Judy Show, have her legal expenses and vacation paid for and finally enjoy a non-roachy environment with her beloved husband(got to watch the silverware though!). Penny wise and pound foolish. I am still waiting for information on the court hearing so you will have to depend on the Barmaid's version for now. I do like a little fire in the conversation, but for Actual Thinker (the innocent one) I am being nice this time.
On 8/29/2009 12:52:51 AM, Anonymous said:
HAH. Not so innocent WhatIf?! I don't mind fire, I do mind ludicrous. And ignorant. Neither of which you tend to be.
What I do want is some coherent F A C T S in this case. Thank you for trying to provide that.
On 8/29/2009 12:53:24 AM, Anonymous said:
Yeah, that was me - forgot to sign - Actual Thinker.
On 8/29/2009 3:01:34 AM, Anonymous said:
There is so much incoherent babble going on with this blog. I actually thought blogging was suppose to be entertaining and sometimes a source of information - and even fun - but this is so sad to see people in this day and age resort to high school rhetoric, beating their chests. Name calling and constantly spinning out other subject matter which has nothing to do with the orginal reason for this blog is so childish. I truly feel sorry for anyone that has to make fun of someone else because they have nothing intelligent to say, just to draw away from the original subject. If the namecalling is to goad others into continuing this blog then I guess this makes it successful.
On 8/29/2009 10:02:10 AM, Anonymous said:
Anonymous at 3:01:34 - Thank you.
I find the subject, and the question above of property rights / business / homeowner to be one of great interest.
Unfortunately it seems there are a lot of passions - and much lack of class - when discussing the issue.
WhatIf? appears to have a lot of information - and I wish they would be willing to share their frame of reference which I did above - then we would understand Bias.
If Nika is really posting - I wish she would sign her blogs - then we could understand her perspective as well.
The name callers - have no idea who most of them are. The Lamar character seems to enjoy provoking on many blogs on this particular site, so his behavior seems deep seated. The others seem to be responding in frustration.
But it goes further than that and stems back to the original situation. Whether you think Nika or the Robinsons are in the rigth BOTH parties and those surrounding them are acting without class, and in the lowest of possible ways while dealing with each other. One would think that Nika wants to stay in business and the Robinsons want a peaceful home - to that end they could have resolved this matter months ago. Perhaps it is anger, perhaps it is inability to compromise, perhaps it is pride - no one knows - but the fact of the matter is - no one is winning this until they DO compromise. - Actual Thinker
On 8/29/2009 11:03:36 AM, Anonymous said:
It is so sad that intelligent mature adults,refuse to accept the situation. and are racing towards the edge of the cliff.Without compromise the only outcome for either party will be a PYRRHIC victory.
On 8/29/2009 11:48:37 AM, Anonymous said:
Well it does have the feel of Roman egos, does it not? "Another such victory and I come back alone" (yes, paraphrased). But they do not see it as that. The Robinsons seem to only be satisfied if they destroy Nika - and perhaps vice versa - and all the money, all the time, all the energy, the malice in the neighborhood, the ongoing negative consequences - none of it worth it.
- Actual Thinker
On 8/29/2009 11:01:38 PM, Whatif? said:
"Actual Thinker" one thing I can assure you of, you could go through the entire history of blogs and you would not find one blog with me using terms as remotely close to what you and friends and employees of Nika have used, especially the blog where you stated – and I now copy and paste: QUOTE: "YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOTIC SCUM SUCKING DICK LOVING ASS FUCKING IDIOT". If you want me to take you seriously, you have to use words effectively rather than being affected by them. You and others have also swirled several insulting words towards the neighbor in many of the blogs, so try not to pretend as if you are holier-than-thou The "F"-Word has never been part of my language/vocabulary - not on these blogs nor in my private and public life. It's just not part of me. That word is overused, meaningless and just shows ignorance and stupidity. Don’t expect Nika to identify herself; you are wasting your time. Nika blatantly denied in a blog last month that she has ever written on the blogs since her article was posted. If you can find a better liar than that, I would love to meet that person. I am convinced that you also work for the Orlando Weekly and it would take much more than you just denying it to un-convince me. If you are an actual thinker, it would do you well to think deeply about what Nika says and writes in all her blogs and the way she says these things. Her repetitious statements and the subject matter she most loves to focus on - "the neighbors are illegally living on a commercial property." Nika could dissolve her jealous rage by simply asking the neighbors to assist her in finding some of these lower-priced properties for $15,000 and under, rather than cursing at them. It would do her good since she would now own a piece of property that could house her Dungeon and Junkyard. She would now have a place of her own to metamorphosise into whatever creature she chooses. Nika writes the “Batman” story about the neighbor doing harm to Batman - a mythical person that Nika pulls from her childlike mind. The neighbor has never committed an assault on her or anyone else. If he had, I guarantee you, she and that person would have certainly reported him to the police and he would be in prison by now because that's her goal even to this day. I am sure Mrs. Robinson will be pleased with the compliments that Nika has given to her when she says Mrs. Robinson is a “Prima Donna, a powerful woman and a top model.” I too agree with those statements and the Barmaid has finally spoken the truth for once in her life. In case you have not noticed, I am capable of analyzing psychological, physical and the varying combinations of emotions of the Barmaid and other bloggers, including yourself. You may call me a “Psychologist” if you choose.
On 8/30/2009 12:28:22 AM, Anonymous said:
WhatIf? - Before you charge me with using curse words - look for WHY they were used. It was a matter of irony dear sir, not an actual posting. The CAPITALIZED CURSE WORDS I USED were in Irony. It was done to point out the ludicrous methods and tactics. Since you wish to repost, why not post what was actually there? It seems you omitted a great deal - The exact post was - in response to someone mocking me because I asked for civility on the posting. To wit, my post said:
" I will enjoy saying (instead of using actual thought and argumentation) that (and logical posters, I hope you understand why I am posting this as an example) "YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOTIC SCUM SUCKING DICK LOVING ASS FUCKING IDIOT" - Is that better? Is that the kind of rhetoric that makes you happy?"**************Hope you did not miss the point above where I said "and logical posters, I hope you understand why I am posting this as an example". I was showing the poster that using those tactics was ignorant - and you took it above as if I truly meant those words. You. Missed. The. Point. Entirely. A clearly spelled out and delineated point - with warnings and everything.
In addition I have NEVER insulted the homeowners OR Nika. I have insulted those coming on here MERELY TO YELL IN ALL CAPITALS AND ENGAGE in spurious attacks on other bloggers. I have maintained at ALL times a middle ground - and know full well from reading ALL the posts above that neither Nika nor the Robinsons are either completely at fault - NOR ARE THEY completely in the right. I have taken your postings into account, and praised you for trying to post facts, and merely asked you to not participate in the game of "whose is bigger" - a game this thread constantly falls into.
On 8/30/2009 12:28:58 AM, Anonymous said:
Comment at 12:28 posted by - Actual Thinker.
On 8/30/2009 11:12:01 AM, Whatif? said:
To know the facts is to take sides. To be in her bar and hear the lies myself is to take sides. To see the records in the County files myself is to take sides. To know the facts will make you give a biased and honest opinion. Therefore, I can't walk the middle of the road and see an innocent family being abused and racially provoked and not take sides. Yes, I take sides. I hope she goes to jail for perjury.
On 8/30/2009 11:16:30 AM, Whatif? said:
Actual Thinker, You may want to ask your employer the Orlando Weekly to correct the time and date stamp on their server.
On 8/30/2009 12:17:56 PM, Anonymous said:
That is it WhatIf? Once again, even when I AGREE with you, you - who I trusted to give actual factual information here - resort to spurious ad hominem attacks. I DO NOT HAVE NEVER AND WILL NOT WORK FOR THE WEEKLY.
But it is the only refuge of those with no support. I have asked you meticulously to follow each of your postings with support. You. Have. Refused. You have said "look it up yourself" - which again, is the folly of those who are so heavily biased towards one side or another that you cannot offer true arguments. You pepper each one of your arguments with hatred, vitriol, and venom addressed to only ONE SIDE of hte argument - as if the Robinsons are a completely innocent party - WHICH THEY ARE NOT. They provoke on purpose, they REFUSE to compromise and instead resort to the police and the courts to do their work rather than BE A NEIGHBOR.
You, with this latest post at 11:12 and your personal ad hominem attack at 11:16, have proven yourself NOT to be a man/woman of character, but to be one of vindictiveness, spite, and fallacious reasoning. Thank you for finally showing me your true nature - for a while there I was believing almost all of what you said - minus the insults to the parties - oh sorry - PARTY since you HURL your INVECTIVE at the bar only. Once again - since you have NEVER responded as I DID above - WHAT IS YOUR FRAME OF REFERENCE? HOW ARE YOU INVOLVED? You are NOT just a "passing by reader" as you might want others to think. You are obviously INVOLVED DEEPLY WITH A PREJUDICED VIEW TOWARDS ONLY ONE SIDE OF THIS EQUATION. A equation where BOTH PARTIES are acting in an irresponsible, immature, and hateful manner.
No wonder individuals have a hard time believing you - you and Lamar are cut from the same exact cloth.
On 8/30/2009 12:41:19 PM, Anonymous said:
EMOTOIN is what make this problem so difficult to resolve.A mans home is his castle,he will strategise, maneuver and defend it at all cost.HIS HOME is his SANCTUARY.HIS HOME is where he finds PEACE. His home is where he finds HAPPINESS.His HOME is where his family LIVES.HIS HOME is where he is KING.HIS HOME represents his ACCOMPLISHMENTS. HIS HOME is where he stores his LIFETIME TREASURES.THE FACT is they bought a home expecting the comforts that it brings,eg a peaceful nights rest.The fact that that they bought it in a commercial zone does not deprive them of the right to some peace and quiet.This is a typical example of BUYERS REMORSE.Nika you should try to understand your NEIGHBORS position,that is not the way to live.You would not want to make a mistake,by buying a home ,spend thousands of dollars remodelling and cleaning the adjacent trash dump,and after all that hard work and expense he cant get any sleep at night.We all make mistakes, but does it means we should be punished so severly, that the NEIGHBOR should just pick up and walk away from his investment and hard work, that is very unreasonable.ALL you had to do was to explain to your NEIGHBOR the bars provide you with an INCOME. It pays your BILLS .It put FOOD on your TABLE.Your EMLLOYEES and their FAMILIES depend on it for a living, It provide EMPLOYMENT to budding musicians and also contributes to the tax base of the county.THIS BAR IS YOUR BABY,you love it, and will SACRIFICE ALL, FOR IT,because you put a lot into lt,and make it what it is.This is your DREAM.With the state of the economy now, moving a business that is sustaining itself would be very foolish,and i dont think nika has the means to relocate.My suggestion to nika and the robinsons instead of racking up expensive legal fees,and still have the problem.Why not try coming together and address the concerns you are having in civil respectful manner,at this point in time it does not matter who is right or wrong,the courts nor county officials cannot and will not make a decision.What is the point wasting money fighting for something that cannot be resolved in a court room ,or county office?Like it or not, both of you will have to talk,the sooner the better.ps the authorities are just sitting and watching for one of you to make a mistake.then they will pounce on you, and force you sell all that you own, to get out of the problem,then it will be too late,and you will hate yourself for not listening to what i am asking the both of you to do today
On 8/30/2009 12:52:50 PM, Anonymous said:
comment@12:41posted by-CAP LOCK BOY
On 8/30/2009 3:50:22 PM, Anonymous said:
If we followed WhatIf's logic - then it is "proved" that he works and is paid for by The Robinsons - it "must" be the truth because "it is said in writing" so therefore without "proof" or "credible support" it is now "PROVED" that he is in the pockets of the Robinsons and they "hired him" to post on here and cause problems for Nika. I mean - it is "proved" is it not? (sarcasm liberally sprinkled throughout.)
On 8/30/2009 10:59:55 PM, Whatif? said:
All you die-hearted and opinionated supporters of the Barmaid, what is of importance is that every legal challenge brought about by Nika against the neighbor, she has lost. Every legal challenge brought by the neighbor against Nika, he has won. Thrice the opportunity was presented to Nika to have the case against her resolved and thrice did she not seize that opportunity. She prefers to pay the price and complain about unfair treatment rather than deal with this legal mess she created. Nika started a war with the neighbor rather than a discussion. She has put them through hell as she laughed and bragged and prodded them. Now she begs for their mercy. The neighbors are not doing anything to hurt her; her pain is from within her. Nobody can help her but herself. You can turn down the noise of Nika, but you can’t turn down the silence of the neighbors. Everybody keeps asking the neighbor to prove his innocence or guilt but no one has ever asked Nika to prove her innocence or guilt. The neighbor doesn’t care about public opinion as Nika does, especially the opinions from others on these blogs, as they serve only to condemn him. Facts of a case are best examined, ruled on and judgment pronounced in a court of law. Nika, her neighbor, zoning, code enforcement and the police should respect this authority as the court is the final arbiter of the law - not the public. The public loves to rule as a mob, hence they blog. They never want to spend the time nor the money to research the truth; just hearing one side is enough for them. Even when the way is made clear to them with bright markings, they prefer to be biased. Nika chose to preach to the mob. The neighbor prefers to present the facts to the Supreme Judge. Hence, the neighbor always wins. The bloggers are only interested in the gossip, that is why they never try to find the truth even when the way is shown to them. You, “Actual Thinker,” asked why no one ever saw or heard this story before in other news media? The answer is simple: Nika went to other media and they all rejected her and her story. The only media that showed any interest in her and her story was the Orlando Weekly, the bottom feeder of the media that promotes bars, strip joints, adult establishments and such like-minded places. So all you bloggers, keep waiting and while you wait, remember that only the legal system is set up to deal with such problems - not you bloggers and supporters of the Barmaid.
On 8/30/2009 11:34:58 PM, Anonymous said:
So WhatIf? - the question becomes - if you loathe the weekly so much as your constant insulting posts indicate, why the hell are you here? Really. Tell us.
On 8/31/2009 9:52:34 AM, Lamar said:
Actual Thinker - I may be annoying and I may even cause a stir every now and then. But 'Whatif' comes in a tidy, pre-angered package. He attacked me because I dared to suggest the "first in time, first in right" idea. I suggested (in earnest) a buyout or other solution that would cost less than litigation. He attacked you because, as best I can tell, you agreed with him. I will say that Whatif is a heck of a character, and I hope to see him post on other topics.
On 8/31/2009 10:00:30 AM, Anonymous said:
Lamar, you are correct. I like your statement "pre-angered package"
The individual posting as WhatIf? is not here to explore or to discuss the issue, but merely to dictate with information he refuses to credibly support with citations/links/etc.
He is in fact, part of the problem. He refuses to see the wants and needs of the business entity, the same way both the business entity and the homeowners are acting in a selfish/self concerned/alienating manner. Some of the worst traits we exhibit as modern "Americans". With all the wonderful benefits we have, we still insist our ____ is bigger than the other persons. - Actual Thinker
On 8/31/2009 11:27:39 AM, Whatif? said:
2 Y'S U R. 2 Y'S U B. I C U R 2 Y'S 4 ME.
On 8/31/2009 11:31:12 AM, Anonymous said:
Oh whatif? Stop being a child and have a dialogue, not a diatribe you insist on others agreeing with. Once again - that is the very real, and very unfortunate root problem in this whole situation. Not that there is a victim or an agressor - but that both parties are too prideful or ignorant to reach a compromise and deal with each other. You praise the robinsons for letting the court handle everything. I find that a complete cop out because they cannot even conduct their day to day lives without complaining to the police. Bizarre and immature on all parts.
On 8/31/2009 3:32:09 PM, Anonymous said:
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On 8/31/2009 3:52:45 PM, Anonymous said:
Yes folks. It is poltically incorrect to use the term "retarded" or "mongoloid". Then posters like 3:32:09 come along and it is so much fun to use them all over again.
On 8/31/2009 9:55:10 PM, Whatif? said:
NO COMPROMISE!! "Nika Pandora" has been opening her box continually for several months now. She has now let all the evil out, then closed it, leaving the only thing that can help her in that very same box...HOPE! Why don't you ask her about her court appearance again? Why not ask her to prove the lies she has been telling? I guess that is not important. You see the neighbor as the villain. You expect Whatif to inform you, but you prefer to criticize his information rather than checking them out for yourself. How pathetic. Lamar's and "Actual Thinker's" mission in these blogs serve only to flex their liberal way of thinking. The present situation is beyond that. If you are really interested in the subject here, I would suggest you read the entire story and blogs from the beginning. We all have our own agenda and no one here can help you because the facts are irrelevant to you. The community is slowly getting the entire story leaked out to them by Nika's very own ex and current employees. She can't fool the residents in Lockhart anymore. Now let's all give three cheers to the Robinsons and a thumbs down to the roach infested bar and the roach breeder Nika. Nika seems reluctant to deny the presence of her roaches; maybe she is afraid Whatif will expose her more. Several residents saw when the health department inspector stopped by her bar, and they were not there for a beer. The battle continues and the strategy continues to evolve. Primitive yet effective. I enjoy watching this battle and the neighbor seems to be ahead. I will not try to convince or prove to you, Lamar and "Actual Thinker", anything anymore because "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."
On 8/31/2009 11:11:03 PM, Anonymous said:
" Lamar's and "Actual Thinker's" mission in these blogs serve only to flex their liberal way of thinking."
As a Republican I take offense to that.
It becomes too painfully obvious that WhatIf? - as many have conjectured - is actually the Robinsons or a party to them thereof. Which makes one realize WHY this case will never be settled amicably - because Whatif? - if any indication of what the neighbors are like - is an absolute raving loon. I gave you credit for a short time above for trying to provide information, but providing information does NOT involve the wholesale insult and degradation you are pointing at one of the parties solely. You are blinded by whatever participation you have in this mess.
The Robinsons are acting like imbeciles.
Nika is acting like an imbecile.
And peace will never be achieved.
You, whatif? should go to the middle east - one week there and you will succeed in all the warring factions blowing themselves up. That is YOUR idea of success.
On 8/31/2009 11:55:55 PM, Whatif? said:
Been there seen that and more. I once saw a man kill a dog..I once also saw a dog kill a man. I once saw a man beat a woman close to her death...I also once saw a woman beat a man close to his death. I once saw my friend won a gunfight with a knife...I once saw my friend lost a knife fight with a gun..I once saw a man set on fire and burnt to death..I once say the same man who set the fire tripped over the sidewalk and died. I once saw my friend laugh with joy..I once say him die from envy. In the end it doesn't matter what you say you are, what matters is, what is. You can continue to ask, that I gain experience from places you have never been, doing things you never did. All just posturing. Walking in the middle of a busy road usually results in more pain, than walking in the broken glass on the soft shoulders. Trying to fix a problem you know nothing of is like sticking your head in a gator's mouth. So then, what if?
On 9/1/2009 12:19:57 AM, Anonymous said:
Now you prove you are mentally deranged Whatif? Post traumatic stress disorder perhaps? Your insane ramblings demand some kind of medication. How sad for you that you feel this tremendous need to continue to post on a site you hate, dealing with people you dislike intensely, about a subject you are so hateful about.
Better check the blood pressure meds man.
Very sad.
On 9/1/2009 11:20:05 AM, Anonymous said:
VACATION TIME, Hope you all enjoy it!!!
On 9/1/2009 11:39:00 AM, Whatif? said:
Time to slip under and slip out. Get your tools, there is work yet to be done, but for now it's a working vacation. Feel free to write while I am away. I would hate to see the blogs dry-up because lAmaR and AcTuaL ThInKer, actually had nothing relevant to contribute and the Anon Barmaid (12:19:57) and friends dry-up like the prunes they are.
On 9/1/2009 1:56:43 PM, Anonymous said:
What an asshole. The ONLY people who appear to be saying ANYTHING at all are Lamar and Actual Thinker. DONT AGREE NECESSARILY BUT THEY ACTUAL CONVERSE - WHATIF? JUST RANTS!
On 9/1/2009 7:17:06 PM, Anonymous said:
What happened at the Junkyard last night? There were over fifteen marked and unmarked police cars and undercover cops surrounding the building. Was it another drug raid? The entire Lockhart was peeping around the corners and side of the road as the one and a half hour raid took place. Need some fact can someone let us know. This continuous police presence at the Junkyard is becoming scary.
On 9/1/2009 8:24:39 PM, Anonymous said:
where there is smoke there is fire.fishy fishy fishy nika
On 9/1/2009 11:01:31 PM, Anonymous said:
where there is smoke there is fire. fishy fishy fishy robinsons
On 9/1/2009 11:16:04 PM, Anonymous said:
I heard it was drugs at the Junkyard
On 9/1/2009 11:22:40 PM, Anonymous said:
Wow. "You Heard"
And if it was?
I guess there are no other bars in Orlando that have drugs there?
You people are fooling yourselves by trying to demonize only one party here.
The best part? Those who chose to live near bars expecting white picket fences and a domestic lifestyle.
One gets what one pays for.
The fact is the homeowners are TRYING TO SHUT DOWN A BUSINESS. And no one cares.
On 9/1/2009 11:43:30 PM, Anonymous said:
Oh! So it was drugs. I heard they also arrested two people. No wonder your business is shutting down. Nika, can you tell us some more please.
On 9/2/2009 12:10:44 AM, Anonymous said:
Not Nika you moron. I think Nika is an idiot as well for not compromising with the neighbors - READ above rather than jumping to pathetic ad hominem attacks. Let me declare my thoughts loud and clear as I have many times before - BOTH parties - both Nika and her establishment and The Robinsons are acting like immature dolts - as are some of the idiot bloggers above. THERE IS NO WINNER IN THIS SITUATION! Either the Robinsons are satisfied once they force a business to close, or The Dungeon is happy when they get the neighbors to move. P. A. T. H. E. T. I. C. on both sides. Pre-school mentalities.
On 9/2/2009 12:12:38 AM, Anonymous said:
They should do a King Solomon. The city should declare eminent domain on the business, and the home, and put a preschool there. That would serve all parties right, and be quite ironic in the light of their idiotic behavior.
On 9/2/2009 8:44:02 AM, Anonymous said:
No It was not drugs at the Junkyard what happened is a man came from Sharkey's was drunk and started showing off his knife the police tried to catch him at Sharkey's but they found in him the front streets of 441 has nothing to do with any bars or any drugs, The man was homeless and had issues. Sorry for your luck no drama just a poor soul in society.By the way why do you people always think It's Nika on this blog? A matter of fact I'm a bartender and I will speak my mind and the truth, I feel that the hateful (Whatif) does not have a clue Nika can be away and you still will accuse her for everything and that is not fair at all. If you want to ask any questions them why don't you call the bar and speak with her instead of assuming these weird tales you have created. Why don't you talk about the shooting at the Wiggle Inn I think that would be more of a juicy subject and concern for you as well as the community. I wonder if all of you where looking out your windows that night. Half of the time you only talk about making fun of others you never talk about facts of the real issue. I have one thing to ask the Robinson's why did they attack my boyfriend as well as myself when I was working? They still continue on bothering us they seam to think It's funny but I do not think so. Funny how I saw Mr. Robinson talking to a cop at the local store running his mouth like crazy, I think there is some dirty deeds going on here! In time all of you will see the truth do not be fooled by these people they are out to get everyone just so happened to be The Dungeon and now The Junkyard. I feel that this situation should be resolved by the courts not by blogging or tracking us all down like the Robinson's do, meaning they take your plate information run it through the system then get your name and address and start there mission of destruction. Just the other day I was walking to work and the Robinson's where walking down the streets with a paper and pen writing down addresses they saw me and shouted out my full name. So I ask all of you to be careful they create stories only to gather more information or to get you angry so that you will sell out to them. These people have a darkness about them more than you will ever know. So once more yes I work at both bars and proud of it I dislike the insults and the pathetic lies that are being told about all of us. Get a clue Whatif is not facing reality. You should place your so called business back up for sale like you did last year and leave all of us alone already, You can not make your mind up but you feel like you have to everyone on your side to gang up on others, Well I'm not moving nor will I leave my job I enjoy your game everytime we are working you play your loud sounds and the only way your getting away with this is because your zoned C1. Funny how the cops think this is crazy but all of you here on this blog never discuss the story all we hear is violent remarks about the employees the owners the customers, The only people who look out there windows are the Robinson's we see you every night so there now what? Well see you on my next shift while I watch you play in your flower beds watching over at the bar!!!!!!
On 9/2/2009 9:18:18 AM, Anonymous said:
Bartender at 8:44 - thank you for a dose of reality. You seem to know fully who WhatIf? is. Can you please disclose at length, without giving the person's name WHY they are so antagonistic towards the bar? What is their frame of reference and HOW are they involved? Are they a competing business? Are they wrapped up in the situation? THEY refuse to give any credible recognition of who they are - unlike what you just did (Good for you for doing that).
I really appreciate what you said - why not just call and discuss? That has been my point all along (though I must add, Nika can do the same by calling them).
From your post I am now satisfied in my opinion that the travesty lay in the hands of BOTH sides. The Robinsons seem like very scared, very small people who are incapable of handling any sort of discussion - they are on the warpath to destroy a business they do not approve of, and they are using "victim" status to do so. Instead, GROW UP and be NEIGHBOR.
On 9/2/2009 12:08:07 PM, Anonymous said:
Funny how the bartender makes it seem like the Robinsons have so much time that all they can do is focus on the bar and its employees. I happen to know that the Robinsons are very busy people and the information you say they get by writing down plates or addresses is all drunken talk. Think about what you are saying. This type of blog could only be written by Nika at this early hour in the morning because I know you don't have Internet access. I also know you did not open the bar this morning. I happen to know that you are just a floater, temporarily resting by your temporary boyfriend who is temporarily resting by his grandmother in an overcrowded house down the dirt road off Pope Ave, close to where I live. Stop lying on the Robinsons. You and Nika making up stories about the Robinsons attacking people such as you, your boyfriend, Nika and others, and yet there is no proof of any of those attacks; otherwise there would have been instantaneous reports to the police when these attacks happen. I also know that your boyfriend (who also works for Nika) was almost tossed out of court by the judge when he tried to frame Mr. Robinson during the injunction hearing, falsely placed on Mr. Robinson by Nika. You were also one of Nika’s witnesses at the court, ready to lie for Nika to protect your measly job. You, your boyfriend and Nika are like peas in a pod, always lying on the Robinsons as you all tried to put him in prison. I also know that you, your boyfriend and her other employees were carrying placards on several occasions, demonstrating against the Robinsons because you all were trying to force them to move from their home. Protect your job if you choose, but stop the lying. By the way, I don't hear you complaining when WALMART, IBM or CHASE or any other business takes over another business, hostile or otherwise; it's the American capitalist way; it's been the case since Europeans started coming to America. Whatif was right, all that the anonymous bloggers are looking for is raw meat, not truth. You all go to hell. I have no sympathy for liars and false storytellers. Deal with the issues. I love the fact my family and I can now sleep more peacefully without the heavy pounding noise from the Dungeon since the Robinsons moved next door. Get a clue already. Nika, you can’t fool Lockhart. We know you, even though the cannibals acting as “anonymous” don't. (Bartender’s Neighbor).
On 9/2/2009 1:07:58 PM, Anonymous said:
ANONYMOUS@9:18:18 you connot blame the Robinsons for feeling victimised,because if you should start at the beginning. Nika got arrested for refusing to make any effort to stop disturbing the peace of her neighbor,this was stated by the police.Nika assumed the neighbor did not worth any respect,if she thought he deserveany respect from her she would make an effort to keep things as quiet as possible and coordinate with her neighbor for ideas.Do you think she would cooperate with her heighbor judging from her attitude with the police officers.Therefore it is safe to asume that it was her intransigence that caused her to be arrested.She then tried seeking REVENGE on her neighbor by making numerous allegations against him, which were all dismissed in court, that means the NEIGHBOR was found INNOCENT,we all know that if there was any TRUTH to these allegations ,the neighbor would be in prison a long time ago.I want to cite just two examples,in her own blog .Nika states that her neighbor tampers with her air conditioning system, and also her telephone.Everyone knows that tampering with communication equipment is a federal offence meaning a felony and automatic jail time.nika if this was true it would ruin the neighbor they would have lost just about EVERYTHING. In all fairness to EVERYONE out there would you be happy with someone that tried to make you FALSELY go to jail and destroy life and family? Would you be smiling with that PERSON?Nothing is wrong having a dispute with an individual and both have different interpretation of how it happened but total fabrications with DANGEROUS consequences is an abomination.If we look at all the FALSE allegations nika made against her neighbor, it gives them every right to be ANGRY.LAMAR.ACTUAL THINKER, go back to where it got started i blame nika for for removing any hope of a peaceful resolution to this problem,OUTRIGHT LIES only work for a time, i personally thought every thing was above board and it was just ego at play,but closer examination on Nikas earlier blogs make me realise,there must be a reason for the Hate, Someone LYING on you to put you in jail is not a laughing matter.I AM A PEACELOVING LIBERAL ,LEAVING this site permanently-CAP LOCK BOY. ps.HAVE A GOOD FIGHT.
On 9/2/2009 2:36:51 PM, Anonymous said:
Once again - in plain talk that those of you posting at 12:08 and 1:07 could understand.
The Robinsons are not completely innocent, and neither is Nika.
Any sane individual can see that. But those of you above who are completely biased and insulting the hell out of the woman who works there who came on here to post are fully in there with the Robinsons. And those completely disparaging the neighbors are just as guilty.
Here is the point.
Nika is miserable.
The Robinsons are miserable.
They choose not to speak and end this amicably.
Therefore -
They deserve 100% to be miserable.
It. Is. Of. Their. Own. Making.
They live and work in an area that makes them miserable.
And they cause that, and deserve that, until they become mature enough to sit down together and work this out like adults.
Till then, they are children spitting at each other over a fence.
On 9/2/2009 2:37:58 PM, Anonymous said:
Oh, and by the way "I AM A PEACELOVING LIBERAL" may be true if by peaceloving liberal you mean a complete myopic jackass who refuses to see any side other than your own petty self concerned one.
On 9/2/2009 2:40:52 PM, Lamar said:
Anon@1:07PM - I understand your point, but we disagree. I believe that we SHOULD blame the Robinsons for feeling victimized. Talk about chutzpah and a sense of entitlement. They were the ones that moved into a commercially-zoned area knowing full well that there was a loud bar across the street. Now they want the government to shut down a lawfully operated and licensed business because they want to live on a commercially-zoned property. None of the post-dispute rancor matters. What matters is that you can't just shut down any and all businesses the second a person decides to buy a property nearby. I don't care about the personal dispute. It has nothing to do with the terrible precedent that would be set if any business could be shut down by a second-in-time resident.
On 9/2/2009 3:23:41 PM, Anonymous said:
I think the bars will be shut down just because of the ignorance of the operator. Say what you may, but trying to put a man in jail with lies does have consequences. If you were the one almost sent to jail because of false allegations, how would you feel and react? This is beyond the commercial property rights and related conversation. I totally understand the Robinson's point of view and would probably react in a worse way than they do. I have no sympathy for that type of behavior from the bar and its employees. There are too many innocent people sent to prison because of people like Nika and her employees lying on them and people like these bloggers trying to look at the situation just from an intellectual point of view. The bar operator lied on an innocent man and she, in turn, should be sent to prison.
On 9/2/2009 4:21:58 PM, Anonymous said:
You know what I would love? If the bar shuts down, the only thing that space is GOOD for is a bar, so the Robinsons will be looking at a crumbling abandoned, drug addict squatting, homeless shelter for a long long time into the future.
Because we all know that is a great part of town.
On 9/2/2009 5:20:20 PM, Anonymous said:
LAMAR we may disagree on everything , but tell me what is the price for your freedom? How many bars is Mr.Robinsons freedom worth.In one of the blogs it was stated that he owns twenty one properties, if he was to sell all of them .How many bars he could have bought?Put all of that in a scale and tell me if that balances out with the dungeon?They may be living on a commercial zoned property, or even squatting the dispute does not warrant making false allegations to ruin someones life.The false allegations is what makes this dispute ugly it also drastically change my opinion about the whole matter.There are too many INJUITICE done to many innocent people and i fully understand Mr,Robinsons concerns.Once again LAMAR do you think Mr.Robinson tampered with Mrs.Santonino"s telephone air condition like she claimed? ALL WE CARE ABOUT IS THE TRUTH.-CAP LOCK BOY......ps just had to respond to you Lamar
On 9/2/2009 7:03:05 PM, Anonymous said:
To Anonymous at 9:18:18 and also Anonymous at 2:36:51 p.m. who talks about people "insulting the hell out of the woman who works there," she deserves every bit of it because she and her boyfriend were co-conspirators with Nika in the injunction hearing against Mr. Robinson. They were the only ones who backed up Nika in all her lies and evil works and still continue to do so just because they can't find a job elsewhere because they don't have the education or the skill to work anywhere else but at a bar...Nika's bar and Dungeon. Her boyfriend was fired by Nika after the court hearing, and after Whatif shamed Nika into re-hiring him because she fired him without severance pay after he has been working with her for years, she fired him again. Yet he and his girlfriend the bartender hang on to Nika like she is the only source of sustenance for them. That's why they would lie through their teeth for her. None of them has any credibility whatsoever and are as guilty as Nika. (Bartender's Neighbor)
On 9/2/2009 7:13:48 PM, Anonymous said:
Anonymous at 4:21:58, that could only happen if you were the one living next to the bar. Remember, the Robinsons are the ones who cleaned up the entire street after they brought their property. What have you done to enhance the cleanliness of your street or home? As a matter of fact, let the bar close down and see if your horrible prediction will come through. I am willing to put my money where my mouth is. (Bartender's Neighbor)
On 9/2/2009 7:38:37 PM, Anonymous said:
How can anyone expect honesty from a co-conspirator? The bartender, her boyfriend and the bar operator have dirty hands, they all tried to put the innocent Robinson in prison. To anon @ 9:18:18 who asked the bartender: "Why not just call and discuss?", how can the bartender give you a call to discuss further details unless she has your phone number or know you personally? Are you also a part of this conspiracy or a new conspiracy? Or will you be posting your phone number on this site so she and others can call you? Or are you just another Orlando Weekly employee whose number can be found on this website? If Whatif could see this - and I hope he can - he would laugh his head off. One idiot after another instructing the other idiot on how to build an idiot tower with these idiotic threads. (Another Bartender's neighbor)
On 9/2/2009 11:35:34 PM, Anonymous said:
7:38 - not only are you an imbecile, but you do not know how to read. I was applauding the bartender saying about the NEIGHBORS "Why not call and discuss" - not her calling me. You are a fool. You are an idiot. You cannot even READ the english language. And you live in a shithole area of Orlando, next to multiple BARS it seems. Should we really talk about life choices?
On 9/2/2009 11:36:56 PM, Anonymous said:
NOTE:
"Since the 1940s, the white concrete-block building at 6440 N. Orange Blossom Trail has housed a watering hole."
For about 70 years anyone living there lived NEXT TO A BAR.
Not. Very. Bright.
On 9/2/2009 11:50:18 PM, Anonymous said:
INCONCLUSIVE? OR INCONCLUSIVE!